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in all honesty, i dont want the 8 back now. ive moved on and am ready for something different. I think the RS2 is exactly what im looking for and the perfect motor for the situation im now in (getting such crazy car is pretty much a f u to the misses. I said I would get a more sensible car hen we got married, were not getting married so then im gonna go the other way!) |
Nick Johnson is well regarded in most Audi circles - if it's been maintained by mrc then Doug should be able too advise on how good an example it is
A lot of people selling cars don't want the hassle of dealing privately, especially if their old car value is way below what they're paying out for |
RS2 is nice.. or look at something like an Octavia vRS (or one of the Audi 1.8T variants), they can be tuned up to stupid levels of power :)
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I was meerly anouncing my intentions to start seriously concidering going about getting my hands on one, and asking what people here thought about them :) |
Octavia VRS isn't mad, in fact. It's sensible, I'm sure they are front wheel drive four pots...?
Get an RS2, the last Audi event I went to, they had brand new S5s/S4s and all sorts there, I couldn't care less about them, I spent 15 mins looking over the RS2, I too want an RS2, badly. It is one of my dream cars, and I will own an RS2 one day. |
Here are some photos I took of the above mentioned car +++
Stats are quite impressive on the RS2 anyway, off the top of my head 315 BHP, 0-60 in 4.8 seconds. Have a read of this article that Pistonheads done on the RS2 recently. http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/news/de...?storyId=18810 Found it funny that when the RS 2 came out, Audi out out an advert with a bloke getting out of one and the caption 'my other cars a Porsche, but today I was in a hurry'. :love::love::love: http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...8/8da809c7.jpg http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...8/de373c51.jpg |
Stunning pictures Amar! And if you want one.... then It actually pretty much makes my mind up that it is the car I should get!
Yup those stats are right, and with a restricted 163mph top speed. (Wonder what it would do without the restricter) If I do get one, id concider having it as an investment (like the pick up) everything I did to it would be easily reverseble. Id remodel the dash for example, but would have a spare to use if it want to go back to standard, id like a larger front bumper, again keeping the original. Id also go for a viyal wrap (and once again, so the wrap could come off and go back to the orignal undamaged paint) So, thoughts of an RS2 lowered and on D3 20" Final Edition alloys? |
Didn't mean to sound like I was putting you off the RS2.. They're awesome, and can be tuned to sillyness :)
It's a heart purchase as much as a head purchase, so go for it! |
I was hoping you meant RS2, but was worried it was a typo for 4 or 6. Glad you meant the proper one though. +++
I think they look aggressive looking as they are, if you want it de limited/remapped/tuned. Get MRC Tuning to do it. Also, have a read through this RS2 build thread. http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26534 You've got to admire the American car culture. http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...8/61ca2f8c.jpg http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...8/d183fb09.jpg |
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Id want to keep you lot onside though this as Id love to come to you lot for advice on what I should do with the RS2 (like I said Id like the option to get it back to standard if and when I want to) Id also like to tap into your recommendations on garages for servicing and upgrades. I neglected the 8 hugely (im still amazed anyone wanted it enough to steal it concidering the state id let it get in) and there is no way id do the same to the RS2 but mods at the top of my mind are: -Final edition 20" D3 wheels (always meant to get these on the 8) I think they would look awesome on the RS2 provinding I can get the ride height low enough? -uprated stereo with 7" (touchscreen?) by removing the air vents and moving the headlight etc buttons down into the old radio slot -Or, a RNS-E unit with a steering wheel with audio controls on? -Black Alcantara Headlining (id get the same guy whos doing the same headlining in my mini, so do the RS2 as well and a few matching touches around the car) -Heated electric seats - Air con (I think they use Audi 90 units) -A vinyl wrap and custom colour (I know im going to get shot for saying it let alone doing it but at least with a wrap it actually protects the original paint and can be pulled of and put back to standard within a few hours) I think I might still be in shock from the broken engagement but at the moment I am leaning towards a Matt GREY wrap! Am I mad??? It would certainly be different....... lol. - it would have to have the rear window spolier with 3rd break light -xeron headlights - de badged -Miltek exaust? Quote:
Hense why I mentioned the future investment potential. I like to think this is going to be a sort after classic in 10years! its already being classed as a retro in some circles. ive heard good things from MRC Tuning (mostly from you lot) and I think its the sort of care and attention to detail id be looking for from a specialist. Id even be happy to travel the distance from London for the right quality of service. Lovely pictures again, keep em coming! the more you post the more I want it! I cant believe the stats of this motor, and for under £10k is an amazing steal! I think this motor would have to be locked away round the back hidden in my garage with the minis though! No way id leave this on the drive! Id also invest in as many security mods as I could possibly think of. |
The final edition wheels could look good, here is a photo of them on a B5 RS 4. The RS 2 is the B4 (RS4) essentially, so I'd imagine it is a little smaller then the B5. The B5 just about gets away with final edition 20" wheels, some would argue they look too big though. I would personally be looking at Porsche 997 Carrera S alloys, in 19".
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I'd be looking at Porsche rims myself - mate had a vw van for work and put cayenne rims on it as theyre the right offset for that application. If they would work size wise I think they'd look ace and keep the Porsche link to the rs2
20s will be too big on an rs2 - I can see them being a struggle to find tyres to get the rolling radius you need going up from standard :) All IMHO of course lol Wish I faced a dilemma like that!! |
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Porsche alloys are too comon.... I like to go different :ROFL: thoughts on the Matt grey wrap?? :ROFL: :Confused: |
Matt grey could work.. how dark though? Something quite dark would probably work better.
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Definitely a dark grey wrap.
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I've heard bad things about wraps not coming off very cleanly, lifting paint etc. Problem could be worsened on an older car with older paint ?
Just a thought, you crack on either way. I'm sure it'll look good... +++ |
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this was a nice one at ADI this year . . .
http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...1&d=1330018184 Go for it and enjoy!! +++ :D |
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Like all your planned mods, except the wrap, they never look right, always look cheap and nasty IMO, and apparently can't be polished (?) |
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I wonder, if I had it in with the same company that origanlly did the wrap and the paint lifted when they went to replace lt, I wonder if that would be down to the company doing the wrap to put right....? I like the though of having a different colour every few years without having to folk out for a whole new paint job! So.... thoughts on uprating the Audi with steering wheel controld on an Audi steering wheel? |
Been looking at that pic and I think I might agree... 20" are to big for that motor. Maybe 18"?
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Been looking at that pic and I think I might agree... 20" are to big for that motor. Maybe 18"? Really not interested in Porsche wheels though. Just not me. |
IMO Audi have lost direction with the latest RS Models.
The RS2 must be one of the real Classic...Iconic vehicles Audi have ever produced ..... Like the S1 etc It is very receptive to modding on the Power side of things.... I personally would find it difficult to do major Cosmetic Mods on a vehicle that already gives one Goosbumps on the testees..... :) http://www.bufkinengineering.com/Umluft.htm I also feel that anything but the Porsche Rims retracts from the whole Design package..... Would I Sell the S or the Cab for an RS2 ????... Prolly not..... But I will add an RS 2 to the Garage at the right time..... Good Luck with Ur Search and I hope you realize your Dream soon ... *envy* :) |
I agree that the new RS models aren't as appealing. I'd take a brand new TDI over a new RS happily. But a classic RS like the RS2? YES PLEASE!
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And thanks, but remember the affordability of this has come about from having the house broken into while I was asleep, and a failed attempt at getting married. Id take marrying the girl of my dreams as planned over the RS2 (and I'm aware some of you nay have to think twice if given the choice girl or car!) |
Vinyl wraps are a bad idea. It's not just the length of time it's left on the car - a few micro blisters will call for a new paint job even if the vinyl is removed a month later. The vinyl adhesive will lift the paint, at any weak point - blister, minute scratch etc.
Not a fan of the matte look. The RS2 has quite a few curves that are emphasised by shiny paint. Matte or satin hides the curves, making the car look rather flat and uninteresting. Shine makes curves stand out. This is why Alpine White or Silver Ur quattros look like regular Coupes from certain angles - the flares don't stand out, unlike the effect Tornado Red, Panther Black, Lago Blue and Titan Red give. As for wheels - not many that look good on the RS2, or indeed the rest of the B4 range. They need a dish to match the wide and low look. Porsche Cups or other similar oldskool wheels, in sixes up to 19", though I honestly feel 18" is the max before handling suffers. Going to 20" flat-faced wheels and maintaining a wide look is virtually impossible. Factory width is 7,0" on a 17" diameter. Going to 18" you'll need a width of between 8,0" and 8,5" to maintain that look. |
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for example Amars old D2 had 20" final edition wheels on it and that looked very low and wide! Havent decided on the matte grey wrap, i may change my mind. pretty sure it will be either a wrap or a custom paint job though |
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I was fortunate enough to own a Polar Silver RS2, and I can state from experience, the RS2 is extremely sensitive to wheel offset, size and rubber. The recommended tyre make was Dunlop. I briefly had Michelin Pilots fitted all round, and the handling suffered. It just wasn't right. I switched back to Dunlop SP8000, (made specifically for the RS2 by Dunlop) and it was business as usual. The RS2 suspension is quite firm, firmer than an RS4's, so any changes made to the regular footprint are immediately apparent. D2 with 20" wheels is very different to an RS2 with the same. |
You have a point. I think trial and error will be the way to go in terms of looks and handling
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Hey all, sorry its been a while. ive had a fair amount going on. ive been busy not getting married. Long story, dont worry.
Anyway, i very much need something to cheer myself up. im still traslly interested in an RS2, but the S4 (B6) has caught my eye! Id love to keep with the V8 and would love to go manual! Thoughts? |
In my honest opinion, I would go for the RS2 anyday. The B6 S4 motor (BBK) is not one of Audi's most durable V8 engines. Failures have been well documented, a search will reveal a lot.
The RS2 on the other hand - well, I wish I hadn't sold mine. It's a fantastic car, handles great. It sort of reminds me of my old Beemer E30 M3. A car pretty much bred for the track, uncompromisingly firm for some, but just right for the true enthusiast. |
Yeah the RS2 is hugely tempting.... But so is the S4....!
Out of interest, if the 8's top speed is 172 unrestricted, what should it be on a manual S4? Sorry I know its a childish question but I'm really curious! |
A B6 S4 is nowhere in performance terms against any of the turbo models, IMHO. If you want something a bit special and the RS2 is a bit too much of a collectors piece to use properly, then B5 RS4s are getting to be seriously good value for money if you can get one that's been properly looked after and doesn't have any issues outstanding.
The RS4 is hitting the kind of value where they're worth more in bits than as a complete car to some if they have any niggles, which at least should mean you can't really lose money on one. Depends on budget, of course. If you really fancy a B6, avoid any that've been longlife serviced as they're more likely to suffer cam chain rattle. Any that rattle at start up for more than a second should be steered well clear of. Many B6 are quite light on spec but many have had bits bolted on later as a lot of options are straightforward to retrofit. Things like auto recirculate not quite so easy.... Values have dropped like a stone in the past year - I was searching for one before I bought the S8 and only a few months after I gave up on making sensible offers the same cars were coming up at prices below what I'd been offering. |
Hello all!
Well it took me a while.... but im back! Almost a year since the 4.2 D2 was stolen and I have just bought myself a S4 B6 Avant with a manual box! cant wait to get it! ive got a few plans for it already. 2012 was the worst year of my life. time to put it all behind me. |
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