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hunker7 30th March 2019 04:23 PM

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See picture. Wouldn't move past that point in the tube.

MikkiJayne 30th March 2019 05:29 PM

A thought - is the pedal definitely returning all the way to its mechanical limit? If the pedal is pressed even a tiny bit it will cut off the supply from the reservoir.

I'm just wondering if the brake light switch is adjusted too far down and preventing the pedal returning fully. That would explain why you can't pressure bleed it (and is the only thing I can think of that would behave like that) and it could be that it goes to the floor just because its full of air.

I would pop the driver's side lower dash off and back the switch right off to see where the brake pedal stops and see if that helps before changing the master cylinder.

Remember to re-adjust the switch properly afterwards though. They have two sets of contacts which have to change at the same time and the ecus get in a grump if they are wrong.

hunker7 30th March 2019 05:33 PM

So even if master is gone, pressure bleeder should still force fluid through?

MikkiJayne 30th March 2019 05:42 PM

Well, with the failure mode I described, the seals have failed. 2 bar should blow fluid through it no problem, unless somehow the seal has disintegrated and got stuck in the hole, but that seems highly unlikely.

I had an issue bleeding the clutch on the manual swap which was like this. I'd got the pedal stop about 2mm out which was enough to stop the pressure bleeder doing anything. Once I adjusted it properly it bled fine. I'm wondering if you're seeing the same thing.

hunker7 30th March 2019 05:50 PM

Pulled brake light switch outwards to make sure there is no pressure on the pedal and it can fully return. 2 bar in the brake fluid container and nothing. Not even a drop.

hunker7 30th March 2019 06:02 PM

Brake fluid level goes up and down as I press it?

EDIT: pedal seems to be stiffer now as well? But like I said still nothing at the back caliper.

hunker7 31st March 2019 11:01 AM

Decided to give her to my mechanic to sort out. Don't have time to deal with it myself and need it back by Friday.

hunker7 4th April 2019 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikkiJayne
That is the exact symptoms of when I had a master cylinder fail due to the scenario I described. One circuit (ie one half of the master cylinder) failed so I had no brakes on FR and RL (or vice versa) and then once the pedal had almost reached the end of its travel, it braked on the other two wheels.
New master cylinder has been fitted, and brakes working. Pedal is still quite spongy, is that D2 thing or should be firm? Autos are usually pretty harsh.

MikkiJayne 4th April 2019 02:46 PM

Non-Brembo brakes should be fairly firm. D2s are very hard to bleed properly though. Was the ESP pump cycled as part of the bleeding process?

hunker7 4th April 2019 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikkiJayne (Post 149326)
Non-Brembo brakes should be fairly firm. D2s are very hard to bleed properly though. Was the ESP pump cycled as part of the bleeding process?

No idea if I have to be honest. Grabbed the car and left :ROFL:

How is it done? :Confused:


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