Thanx God I'm Borys with a "y" .....tough MOFO with huge cohones, Syberian Express with power of Hercules ha ha ha
No seriously I'm in UK 16 years and I really got my self to love this country (in a way) .... but Brexit is the most rediculous thing I've seen to this date, truly. That geeza Boris where did he came from, OMG!!!
Hope Britain will choose wisely
Ohh a small tip, I came to UK illegally back in a day, there were no and will be no border control. Who wants to get in - will, trust me on this I know.

Article 50

1. Any Member State may decide to withdraw from the Union in accordance with its own constitutional requirements.

http://www.lisbon-treaty.org/wcm/the...rticle-50.html

Makes me wonder which is correct!

We will vote Out.
Nothing will change as all the Acts of Parliament will remain in force.
While the Eu dictated that we enact these laws, leaving the EU in itself would in no way automatically rescind them, that would have to be done 'manually'.

We will still be a member of NATO, UN, G18, ECHR etc..

Well... the UK parliament passed the act that officially put us in the EU, they're free to repeal it if they wish and as it's a UK law the EU can have no influence on what we do with it.

I still suspect when all the dust has settled we'll be in the EU but it's sure going to be interesting all the same.

Saw an interesting and kinda simple way of looking at things today -

"My view on EU referendum is very simple.
Vote remain - If you are happy with the way things are now. Basically you are signing up for more of the same.
Vote leave - If you are unhappy with the way things are now. But there is no guarantee things will be better, only different.

Im not fooled by the campaign hype of house prices falling if we leave, being better off if we stay, having more security if we leave or any of the other messages put out in the media.

The truth is these figures and assumptions are compiled by analysts who are frequently wrong (I know work with a lot of analysts). They typically base their models on existing data that they have. But in this case there is no previous data to refer to, no one (or country) has left a situation like this previously. So it doesn't matter if you are the US President, Governor of the Bank of England or Tony Blair you simply have no more idea of the implications than I.

What I do know is that in these situations there will be political and financial motivations for those at the top of the food chain. What they are, I probably will never know.

So on that basis for me it's a simple.
Happy as is = Vote Remain
Roll the dice = Vote Leave"

:rolleyes:

Not convinced things will simply stay the same if we do stay....

We'll have sent a clear message to the EU that we're 'all' 'happy' with the EU dictatorship, clearing a path for them to pretty much do whatever they've been holding back on until the vote is cast...

Cynical maybe, but as you said, who knows what is really motivating those at the top, and what plans they really have if we stay. Or leave.

My heart says leave, my head suggests there are some good arguments for staying.

This fence is rather uncomfortable +++

Let's not forget that the majority of MPs agree on staying in. Link. These are the very people we voted in last year to make decisions for us. I believe we have enough experts that our MP's could have made this choice without tomorrows vote. The EU referendum as been brought upon us because of Conservative internal conflicts and Cameron has to uphold his pre election promise.

Anyhow, here's John Olivers' take on Brexit

Uncomfortable ??
Mine has barbed wire on the top

Personally, though I'm sometimes a bit of a risk taker, I wouldn't roll the dice on something as important as this.

And if you're not happy, in my view, then I think you need to be convinced that the cause of that unhappiness is the EU, and also that that unhappiness is going to continue in the long term (i.e. generational), rather than it being a short-term gripe about the political process or the flaws in representation.

I'm firmly Remain, btw, and typing this whilst having a drink with a good friend, who's the leader of the Leave campaign for Manchester +++

Thoughts

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/666...European-Union