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homer simpson 12th February 2019 06:52 PM

2G to 3G MMI
 
How difficult is this?
Is it worth it?
Anyone done this?

Just an information thread (for now) but you never know...:D

homer simpson 12th February 2019 07:00 PM

OK so a Google search helps!

https://www.audiworld.com/forums/a8-...rofit-2889270/

http://www.tyresmoke.net/forum/topic...3g-conversion/

snapdragon 12th February 2019 07:36 PM

I'm sure someone on here did it 5-6 years ago.

tc4332 12th February 2019 07:45 PM

An ex-member did it with the helpof a Polish software engineer.
Very expensive and not the normal sort of retrofix that we enjoy.
Eventually he stripped it out and sold the components.

homer simpson 12th February 2019 08:22 PM

If that was THIS one ? then wasn't that a D4 3G+ setup rather than D3 3G? Or was there another one?

Adrian E 13th February 2019 07:11 AM

That’s the one the sprung to my mind on opening this thread

I suspect it’s not ‘difficult’ in a technical sense, but depending on whether any modules you currently have in the car won’t talk to the later system will be the determining factor in how many components need to be changed

The later style MMI controls, screen, hard drive and associated hardware to locate it are the bare minimum that springs to mind

Probably one of those jobs where having a working but crashed 3G car would simplify a swap

IT 13th February 2019 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homer simpson (Post 148119)
If that was THIS one ? then wasn't that a D4 3G+ setup rather than D3 3G? Or was there another one?

That setup was out of a Q7 - The Q7 ran 3G plus up until 2015, which makes the parts a bit more available, and the Q7 ran 3G+ without a touchpad (unlike the D4) so again, easier to port across I suspect.

Moving from 2G to 3G is basically swapping all the MMI components, along with re-wiring, and then lots of coding and component protection removal.

Its been done several times, and is more common the A6 C6 I think than the A8 D3

It'll add marginal value to the car though, for the cost of all the parts and effort involved.

steamship 13th February 2019 10:56 AM

ScottD3 did it on his car. Don't know the specifics of where the MMI kit came out of.

homer simpson 13th February 2019 07:01 PM

Thanks gents, some interesting info there. These cars are still good with their 10 year old technology although having a new A6 as a loan car certainly makes it look a little outdated, but not much. The annoying thing at the moment is that the maps are no longer supported for 2G.

IT 13th February 2019 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homer simpson (Post 148133)
Thanks gents, some interesting info there. These cars are still good with their 10 year old technology although having a new A6 as a loan car certainly makes it look a little outdated, but not much. The annoying thing at the moment is that the maps are no longer supported for 2G.

3G isn't really that great an upgrade over 2G..... Its higher rez, has the jukebox hard drive for media, HDD based maps (which are a bit trickier to update).

3G+ gives proper 7 digit postcode navigation, wifi hotspot, google maps, google search, bluetooth audio streaming etc.

J i m s t e r 14th February 2019 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homer simpson (Post 148133)
Thanks gents, some interesting info there. These cars are still good with their 10 year old technology although having a new A6 as a loan car certainly makes it look a little outdated, but not much. The annoying thing at the moment is that the maps are no longer supported for 2G.

I've yet to find a better solution than Waze on my phone (which is live-traffic updated and based on Google maps. And Free). I did like the magic map on the RS5 Ian is punting, but I can do without for the moment.

homer simpson 14th February 2019 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IT (Post 148138)
3G isn't really that great an upgrade over 2G..... Its higher rez, has the jukebox hard drive for media, HDD based maps (which are a bit trickier to update).

3G+ gives proper 7 digit postcode navigation, wifi hotspot, google maps, google search, bluetooth audio streaming etc.

Good point IT. Another option is to mirror link to the screen and use my phone for navigation. The sound being B&O is excellent so no upgrade needed there.

Are the latest cars still using 3G+?

IT 14th February 2019 07:44 PM

My S5 and Q7 are both on the next gen from 3G+, but even that is now 4 years old - so the new C8 (A6) for example and D5 (A8) are on the next gen again i think !

I hate to say it, but its become way less about the cars, or brands, as they're all so generally very good - people are swayed far more now by the tech in the cabin.....

Brand loyalty is taking a beating I think. And all electric is going to shuffle things up again, and that's really just round the corner.

The Q7 I just bought I expect to get a good 4 years from but by the end of it, I'm expecting diesel to be well on the way to being dead in terms of the mainstream new car demand.

I've slipped off topic a little there...... :rolleyes: +++

Architex_mA8tey 15th February 2019 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IT (Post 148152)
The Q7 I just bought I expect to get a good 4 years from but by the end of it, I'm expecting diesel to be well on the way to being dead in terms of the mainstream new car demand.

You? 4 years with a car?? hahahahahahahahahaha :ROFL:

J i m s t e r 15th February 2019 03:41 PM

"The UK has pledged that half of all new car sales will be hybrid or electric by 2030 as part of its “Road to Zero” plan "

10 years at least there.

As discussed elsewhere, where is all the energy coming from to charge everyone's car? Post-Brexit, where is the money coming from? We are due more austerity, no chance of more spending on public infrastructure.

Not outside Ye Olde London Village, anyway.

steamship 15th February 2019 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Architex_mA8tey (Post 148164)
You? 4 years with a car?? hahahahahahahahahaha :ROFL:

Maybe he meant 'months'. ;) ... as if his signature isn't long enough! :ROFL:

MikkiJayne 15th February 2019 04:36 PM

4 dog years :ROFL:

snapdragon 15th February 2019 05:11 PM

United Nations Agenda 21 and UN Agenda 2030 plan that we will all be poor in 2030, The West will be collapsed by Kalergi Migration Plan (The great people replacement) and ruled by the elite who fly over us in helicopters and drive by in their PHEVs from their mansions to redout bunkers. The removal of fossil fuels is just part of the agenda. Global population and health has skyrocketed because of fossil energy and the intensive farming and food distribution this allows. This is to be reversed.


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