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Johnmed 27th April 2015 04:53 PM

Just replaced the air filter....
 
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Is this normal accumulation of dirt? Looks excessive to me, given the FASH...

M-A8 27th April 2015 05:19 PM

Jesus....that looks very excessive to me, but I'm a bit an@l.
What have you replaced with, same oem stuff??

Johnmed 27th April 2015 05:24 PM

Think there was a Wasp's nest in there too. Excessive to me. Even given my recent jaunt around France and back. I replaced it with a Mann filter. Looked like nice quality to me. Visibly very similar to the VAG one I took out.

mattylondon 27th April 2015 05:27 PM

It's a bit more dirty than mine, and your filter is a lot blacker. I've done 9k since last service. Yours I think is not excessive.

It's worth checking the rubber drain tube (last photo bottom centre) in the air filter housing as it may be blocked.

Johnmed 27th April 2015 05:30 PM

Cheers Matty. I gave it a good hoover and clean.

Burnzybubbles 28th April 2015 06:40 PM

Was there not a date stamped into the filter?

I'd say it looks like it hasn't been changed in a while but it all depends on where your driving, I have noticed the d3 is quite good at scooping crap into the air filter housing, iv also noted what a crap design it is, my opinion is it hasn't been changed in quite a while, wouldn't be the first time any main dealer hasn't bothered changing all the filters.

Delboy 28th April 2015 06:53 PM

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Well my experience of main dealers and filters was less than ideal, they replaced the filters but what I can only assume is laziness was to pull the filter boxes out of there mountings to make access easier for one screw and didn't put it back, so the intake pipes didn't line up, and i also found the hose clip that holds the air intake pipe to the throttle body was left slack.

Anyway back on topic yes I would say they were manky, treat the ol girl to a fresh set

M-A8 28th April 2015 07:14 PM

That must be so frustrating Del especially if the dealer is the one place where this simple job should be done with no issues whatsoever.

I went with Green Filters http://www.greenfilters.co.uk/ and since then, 3 years ago at least I'm just keep cleaning it every few months and its not far from as good as new, but in all fairness I'm not doing ridiculous miles or drive outside city streets and main roads.

Burnzybubbles 28th April 2015 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Delboy (Post 92979)
Well my experience of main dealers and filters was less than ideal, they replaced the filters but what I can only assume is laziness was to pull the filter boxes out of there mountings to make access easier for one screw and didn't put it back, so the intake pipes didn't line up, and i also found the hose clip that holds the air intake pipe to the throttle body was left slack.

Anyway back on topic yes I would say they were manky, treat the ol girl to a fresh set

From what iv seen posted about main dealers then they'd be the last place I'd go, I'd pick a specialised independent any day of the week, but unfortunately people not in the know think FASH is the best thing since sliced bread so people will pay extra for bad servicing :ROFL: my mate worked for Audi as a tech and he/they don't get treated very well and that'll reflect in the work being done.

Burnzybubbles 28th April 2015 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by M-A8 (Post 92983)
That must be so frustrating Del especially if the dealer is the one place where this simple job should be done with no issues whatsoever.

I went with Green Filters http://www.greenfilters.co.uk/ and since then, 3 years ago at least I'm just keep cleaning it every few months and its not far from as good as new, but in all fairness I'm not doing ridiculous miles or drive outside city streets and main roads.


I don't know if I posted it on here but there was an interesting test done on types of air filters, and unless the filter is a known weak spot or restriction then they didn't give enough benefit to outweighs the cons of the fact they let more dirt into the engine, I'll see if I can dig it up for you too have a read.

Here you go: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest1.htm

tipptop 29th April 2015 01:59 PM

Just did my air and diesel filter yesterday. Air filter looked as bad as yours. Car has 170k miles and no mention of diesel filter in the service history. Got both filters from audi with trade discount for €110. The diesel filter i cut open afterwards and out spewed some very dirty gunge. The paper filter inside was covered in a slimy gloopy sludge aswell.

I had a slight shudder throughout the car at low revs, most noticable at 70-80mph even on glass like roads, I was convinced there was a gearbox issue and was lining up a fluid change. The shudder is gone after the filter changes so i guess it was partailly blocked and starved of fuel at low revs.

A lesson to start simple!

Johnmed 29th April 2015 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tipptop (Post 93035)
Just did my air and diesel filter yesterday. Air filter looked as bad as yours. Car has 170k miles and no mention of diesel filter in the service history. Got both filters from audi with trade discount for €110. The diesel filter i cut open afterwards and out spewed some very dirty gunge. The paper filter inside was covered in a slimy gloopy sludge aswell.

I had a slight shudder throughout the car at low revs, most noticable at 70-80mph even on glass like roads, I was convinced there was a gearbox issue and was lining up a fluid change. The shudder is gone after the filter changes so i guess it was partailly blocked and starved of fuel at low revs.

A lesson to start simple!

Hey that's interesting. I have a very slight shudder between 50-60 mph. I've had the wheels balanced/checked and a 4 wheel alignment (checked, and it was fine) and replaced all four tyres, still there, very slightly, and bugs the s@*t out of me.

How easy was the diesel filter to replace?

Johnmed 29th April 2015 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Burnzybubbles (Post 92976)
Was there not a date stamped into the filter?

I'd say it looks like it hasn't been changed in a while but it all depends on where your driving, I have noticed the d3 is quite good at scooping crap into the air filter housing, iv also noted what a crap design it is, my opinion is it hasn't been changed in quite a while, wouldn't be the first time any main dealer hasn't bothered changing all the filters.

Didn't see a date on it. I still have it (in the wheely bin) if anyone knows where to look for a date exactly.

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Originally Posted by Burnzybubbles (Post 92990)
I don't know if I posted it on here but there was an interesting test done on types of air filters, and unless the filter is a known weak spot or restriction then they didn't give enough benefit to outweighs the cons of the fact they let more dirt into the engine, I'll see if I can dig it up for you too have a read.

Here you go: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest1.htm

Good read

tipptop 29th April 2015 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnmed (Post 93037)
Hey that's interesting. I have a very slight shudder between 50-60 mph. I've had the wheels balanced/checked and a 4 wheel alignment (checked, and it was fine) and replaced all four tyres, still there, very slightly, and bugs the s@*t out of me.

How easy was the diesel filter to replace?

It seriously bugged me too. I only had the car a few weeks and put the shudder down to mixed brands and thread depth on the tyres. I got 4 new dunlops and alignment and balanced twice. Still had the shudder. I felt it most in the accelerator pedal and a little in the gearstick and the passanger seat back would vibrate. Basically ruined the comfort for me anyway.

The diesel filter is easy. Fill the new one with diesel, slap it in, few cranks and it will start again. You could even fill the new filter with a fuel system cleaner like dipethane or stanadyne to give the injectors a good blast.

My shudder is gone, much more responsive too. Im thinking it was the original filter in the car after 170k miles:rolleyes:

Burnzybubbles 29th April 2015 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnmed (Post 93039)
Didn't see a date on it. I still have it (in the wheely bin) if anyone knows where to look for a date exactly.



Good read

Take a picture of the top with the black writing and post it on here, not all have a date but a lot do, if you look on the top of the man filter it's on there :) since the design is the same I'd be surprised they aren't the same manufacturer.

Johnmed 30th April 2015 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Burnzybubbles (Post 93059)
Take a picture of the top with the black writing and post it on here, not all have a date but a lot do, if you look on the top of the man filter it's on there :) since the design is the same I'd be surprised they aren't the same manufacturer.

Ta da:


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Burnzybubbles 30th April 2015 07:24 PM

It's not there, sorry for making you drag it out the bin, if you look on this photo next to made in Germany is the date stamp, funny why they don't put it on the Audi part :\

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Johnmed 30th April 2015 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Burnzybubbles (Post 93133)
It's not there, sorry for making you drag it out the bin, if you look on this photo next to made in Germany is the date stamp, funny why they don't put it on the Audi part :\

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...ADF9119397.jpg

No worries. Didn't think it was there. Ta

Johnmed 2nd May 2015 08:37 AM

Just checked the car's service history. Audi says the air filter was last changed at 86k miles, about 2 years/20k miles ago.

Burnzybubbles 2nd May 2015 12:06 PM

My service history was like that, variable servicing iirc, 20k miles is a bit excessive in my eyes regardless if the oil has gotten a lot better over the years, iv now changed the dash to 10k fix servicing intervals, might explain the state of the filter though.

Johnmed 2nd May 2015 12:56 PM

Yup. I'd already done the same. Cheers.

tc4332 2nd May 2015 04:49 PM

I had the air box out last night whilst working on offside headlights.
Used the opportunity to look inside and found one piece of dried grass (straw) and just a little dust.
Do A8s start life as combine harvesters? :D

Johnmed 2nd May 2015 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tc4332 (Post 93235)
I had the air box out last night whilst working on offside headlights.
Used the opportunity to look inside and found one piece of dried grass (straw) and just a little dust.
Do A8s start life as combine harvesters? :D

Ha. I did do some 'spirited driving' off road in France before I changed this one. That explains some of the muck in mine, at least.


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