A little tweak.
 

They say a picture speaks a thousand words, so here's 3000..... ;)

The BHP increase is nothing. Its the 1000+ NM that really, really takes your breath away.... +++

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That's a heck of a difference

Wowzarooonie!

Nice, I wondered how long it would be before the urge for mooaaaar took hold +++

lol. It was more of a bucket list item.... For a while its been apparent the RS6 will likely be my last, and most ridiculous daily driver, so decided I should go the whole hog....

I've never had a remap, and never had that much power, even though its really not a cheap job, it seemed a bit irresistible...

I quite fancied the whole 'drive it in slow', remap, and 'drive it out faster' thing. Even though I'm an IT guy it was a bit hard to believe it would make that much difference.....

After some practise, I used to be able to drive it flat out. Now there's no chance....

Even the insurance company wanted proof of the software upgrade, not sure they believed me +++

Mind boggling. I can perfectly understand why you'd put yourself through the hell of all that grunt. You have my sympathy, you lucky sod

Grunt is a V8 pressing you back in your seat as you press the loud peddle. This is an insane legal high, whilst somehow also serving a practical purpose.

After the remap, when I first gave it some gusto I felt the steering wheel pull away from my hands as I sank back in the seat. That was weird.

The second time I hoofed on (now clinging to steering wheel) it was obvious the back wheels were struggling for grip altering from cruising speed to overtaking speed.

I'll say that again. 'struggling for grip'

Oh, and it was dry, and sunny..... and of course auto and Quattro....

Its genuinely, honestly, unnecessarily mind bogglingly fast.

and this is a really quite modestly modified C6 RS6. MRC have just done a 1000+ps, 1200+nm version. You probably felt the earth move backwards slightly when they were mapping it ;)

I've done it once, many years ago now and on a lowly 2-litre turbo-diesel. A company called Van Aaken who are long gone. They did it with a plug-in box that was totally removable to revert to standard.

The difference was astounding - getting on for a 50% increase in torque and almost as much extra power; I didn't keep the evidence (not least because I eventually sold the unit on to a happy buyer who used it to tow a big caravan!).
They did say that mine was the best example of the particular model that they had done, it was happy taking the maximum they could adjust it up to, normally 30% extra was about the safe maximum.

So did you have the remap done before the trip to germany?

How fast did you have her up to?

It's great isn't it? The guys at MRC are good too.. I drove my lowly oil burner in with 657Nm and drove out with 807Nm (150Nm which was ~ 24% increase). That was a modest "basic" remap too.... That RS6 with 1000+ must be phenomenal, especially with close to 700 horses behind it too... Nice!! Enjoy.. +++;)

Yes, it was done the week before I went.

I will say that German drivers don't seem as disciplined as they used to be, they're not as good as keeping to the inside lane as they used to be for sure.... finding open parts of Autobahn to get a move on were unusually rare.

That said, I think we saw 178 on the clocks, and we worked out using GPS it was about 5% optimistic, so say just shy of 170. The limitation wasn't the car, it was the environment. I'll get a move on in the outside if the outside and middle lane is clear, otherwise its just too much to presume that the middle laners will properly check their mirrors before pulling out...

So, yes, its quick, but well balanced and stable. And its very odd pressing the pedal and feeling proper pull at 150mph. The D2 / D3 I've had over there before will get up to those speeds, but take a bit of winding up. The RS has absolutely no hesitation....

Oh, and the vpower racing 100 they have in Germany sure helps...... +++

Nice :)

Is this on a par with Amar's, or is his in a slightly higher state of tune?

I do find myself browsing RS6 Avants at the moment - driven vaguely responsibly I can't see them being any worse on fuel than my D2, which I run on high octane fuel anyway and average real world 16mpg over the last 22k miles. That average is very gradually creeping up following wheel alignment, tyre change, and much less urban driving than I used to do.

My perfect combo at the moment would be an RS6 and a BMW i3

His has a few more tweaks, exhaust etc., so produces a bit more power I believe, but I suspect they are much closer now than they were when mine was stock.

Of all the Audis I've ever driven, including the C5 RS6 (which was a tame kitten compared to this) the C6 RS6 is probably the one to have at least for a short while.

Unlike most cars, the RS' tend to depreciate almost solely on mileage, with age not factoring in very much, so if you buy it right and use it rarely its not so hard on the wallet.....

[/manmathjustification] ;)

Mine was supposed to be sold this month, but with my foot surgery its the only auto I have at my disposal (shame huh?) so I need to keep it a little while longer. And even they I've still not found a car that could replace it... :rolleyes:

I forget all the ins and outs about specs and import numbers, but seem to recall most avants are earlier cars so have DVD nav, unless you go for the Plus model?

There's a nice looking Avant on AT today with adaptive cruise and 60k miles, but it's priced at what our S5 Sportback (a 2011 model with half the miles when we bought it) was advertised for at less than 3 years old.

Will prob keep the S5 for at least another year (the next service and warranty for a year are all paid for) so will see how it goes. Miss the flexibility of an estate, especially one capable of warp 10!

I keep looking at them too, but not having a garage and parking for just the one car it wouldn't be the correct car for us.

Would love to have that power though.

The saloon was available until 2009, and therefore only came with 3G MMI, so its a safe bet.

The avant was available earlier, and came originally with 2G. The problem is the recession hit 2008 and a lot of 2008 cars got stock piled, eventually getting registered 2009 so with the avants, you have to look closely to see what you're getting.

The plus model was a run out version in 2010, but there's no more power, and usually the specs are quite poverty so they're not as desirable as they sound. They basically have exclusive paint and leather as standard, but most dealers seemed to make hideous, or plain boring colour combos out of it, making it quite pointless.

Very impressive! an extra 300Nm just from a remap!
Enjoy it, sound well worth it.

I was looking at the start of your torque curve for laughs, looks like your RS6 now at only 1500rpm already produces the same torque as a D2 S8 at max power.
At 2750rpm it produces the torque of two D2 S8's :)

Can I ask how much the remap was and what the bhp was before and after?

Ian - love the car by the way ... Amazing and congrats!

Oli

Oli, thanks - and its not the BHP you need to look at, its the torque...

With 2 turbos and plenty of cubes the difference in that D3 of yours will be seriously noticeable after a remap.

I've looked at loads of before and after stats, but really all that matters is the grin factor, and with the bigger blown engines, its guaranteed +++

Hi Oli.

Before it was 314 BHP and after it was 364 BHP, so that's "only" a 50 BHP difference, but as Ian says... It's all about the torque.. that extra 150 Nm means it pulls like a locomotive all the way to red line now and feels so much quicker. I keep meaning to video some 0-60 times. It has to be down into the mid to high 4's now. Feels like it at any rate. It cost me about £500 ish I think. Something like that anyway. +++

The Shark map takes the 4.2tdi up to about 380 allegedly..

Ian

Slightly oddball question, but does the RS6 fuel flap list 98/95 or 95/91 for fuel grade for a standard car? I'm thinking it might be a late 98/95 so still benefits from the higher octane.....

I know on the supercharged S models it's 95/91 and there's no real performance difference if you run 98 as it's not mapped for it.

All bets are off on a remapped car obviously, which will require 98 I'm sure.

I may have set up a couple of auto searches for Avants, just to see what's out there :rolleyes:

Adrian

Its 95 / 91 on the flap. Mine was remapped on Shell Vpower.

I was interested in the Avant and ruled it on several counts:

1) Its far less exclusive
2) Its a lottery whether you get 3G MMI, and prices don't reflect it
3) Its likely been used as an estate car.
4) (The biggie) Its heavier and slower... :D

Don't forget being an 'A6' you do actually get fold down rear seats etc., so unless you regularly need to cart a load of big stuff around, the Saloon is probably a more secure bet having an enclosed luggage space imo +++

Thanks Ian, that's useful to know from a running cost perspective on a stock car - although the differential in cost would be insignificant in the grand scheme of things!

Unfortunately an estate is pretty much a requirement for me - we're managing with a hatch and saloon at the moment, but we've previously been a 2 estate car family (even before child!)

My hobby takes me round the South of the country racing toy cars. It involves carting a LOT of stuff with me. At the moment I have to put a large bag upright on the back seat in the S8 (suitably protected!) as it can't be laid on its side and there's just no other way to get it in the car. The boot on the S8 is usually filled to capacity as well.

My likely requirements are probably enough of an issue to limit my options, when I actually get round to serious looking.

Must have ACC, 3G
Mustn't have a light colour interior
Nice to have: TV, reversing camera, advanced key, blinds or hearse tints, power doors, twin pane glass
Not fussed either way: ceramic brakes, remap

Have you ever seen one for sale with the optional manual buckets?! £2k to take away seat memory.....

3G, Acc and Avant. Only ever seen 2 of those....
Most have TV. The rest of your nice to haves are rarer, especially together.

I've seen two cars with the buckets. They're nice, but bolster wear is very evident and if you're a bit on the chunkier side (like me) then they're prohibitive to actually getting comfortable in the car. A lot of folk seem to really want them....

2K to take away electric seats...., never mind the memory.... They have electric lumbar and width movement, but forwards / backwards etc. is all manual +++

You need one with a warranty, or that has recently had the engine oil seal sorted. Full Audi history is obviously a must if you want to preserve resale value.

Value of an RS is purely on mileage and spec. Not age. High milers are worth temptingly little, but could be out of warranty potential money pits...

I've seen a few 3G/acc/avants recently on ph and at :)