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ColinR32 14th April 2016 09:51 AM

hybrid tv install problem
 
Firstly hello all as a newbie,

i hae my self a 2005 A8 3tdi, absolutey lveycar cant fault it, and certainly couldnt part with it now i have had one,

the car came wih analouge tv so after days of browsing the net i bagged myself an audi hybrid tv tuner withpart number 4E0 910 148D

now after i instaled this unit is where the problems start.

when i press the CD/TV butto and then followed by the source button the only option tha comes up is the cd changer, no tv option.

i amlucky enough thave the genuine VCDS cable and have done th programming and coding ect butstill no luck

i have seen that the mmi software is 0900 which i belive is pretty dam old, could this be he problem?

any help at all is greatly accepted

IT 14th April 2016 10:00 AM

Hi, and welcome.....

The analogue to digital TV tuner really should be a straight swap. No coding, nothing.

I suspect your MMI version is the most likely cause of the issue if the TV option has disappeared completely as I'm assuming the Tuner shows up in VCDS happily, and if it was majorly failed it would bring down the MOST loop and stop everything working when you swapped it in....

I'm on a mission to get folk to update their signatures at the moment with their car details, makes it much easier to help people as you don't have to explain every time exactly what car you've got +++

So Photos of car is a must, and so is a signature update +++

Rick 14th April 2016 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by IT (Post 110283)



I'm on a mission to get folk to update their signatures at the moment with their car details, makes it much easier to help people as you don't have to explain every time exactly what car you've got +++

So Photos of car is a must, and so is a signature update +++

How do we do that?
I want to list all my thingymajigs but cant find a signature option.

IT 14th April 2016 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick (Post 110290)
How do we do that?
I want to list all my thingymajigs but cant find a signature option.

Under the Quick Links menu at the top, select 'Edit signature' +++

ColinR32 14th April 2016 11:12 AM

aboslutely brilliant IT thnaks forthe quick response,

i have been told that updating from 0900 upto the latest softwar causesproblem after problem is this the case if done correctly?

IT 14th April 2016 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColinR32 (Post 110294)
aboslutely brilliant IT thnaks forthe quick response,

i have been told that updating from 0900 upto the latest softwar causesproblem after problem is this the case if done correctly?

The Phone module update on disc 2 has been known to brick some units, rarely though.

I personally rarely bother with disc 2 and 3 if I'm just wanting to get the base MMI updated....

Have a search around on here, you should find quite a bit of info on it.

ColinR32 14th April 2016 02:06 PM

last question promise :D

so am correctin saying i can buy the 5 discs a a set and update from my software to this just with the 5 discs advertize every where on ebay.

again cant thank you enough for the info +++

mattylondon 14th April 2016 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ColinR32 (Post 110304)
last question promise :D

so am correctin saying i can buy the 5 discs a a set and update from my software to this just with the 5 discs advertize every where on ebay.

again cant thank you enough for the info +++

Yes, but buy it from TPS as it'll be cheaper. +++

IT 14th April 2016 02:29 PM

Thought it was a 3 Disc set ?

Would defo go original from TPS - Some bricked units have been blamed on badly burnt copies....

ColinR32 14th April 2016 03:33 PM

anyone have a specific part number for tps as the guys in my local branch really are thick as they claim its £200+ for the update discs

IT 14th April 2016 03:42 PM

Have a look through the previous threads, the 2G MMI update is well documented I'm sure....

mattylondon 14th April 2016 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColinR32 (Post 110308)
anyone have a specific part number for tps as the guys in my local branch really are thick as they claim its £200+ for the update discs

Should be less than a tenner for both CD's

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...achmentid=9434

JulianHicks 14th April 2016 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ColinR32 (Post 110281)
Firstly hello all as a newbie,

i hae my self a 2005 A8 3tdi, ...

i amlucky enough thave the genuine VCDS cable and have done th programming and coding ect butstill no luck

i have seen that the mmi software is 0900 which i belive is pretty dam old, could this be he problem?

any help at all is greatly accepted

Hi Colin; just like to add my comments to all the other ones:)

Looks like you have the original MMI code for your car, as my Nov 2004 built 2005 car had 0890 until I updated it to 5570.

If you've got VCDS I'd be interested in seeing the VCDS Autoscan for the car at 0900 before you update it so that I can see the code levels for the multimedia ECUs in the scan. I'm compiling a 'what firmware came with what MMI level' table and 0900 is a level I haven't got details for.

MMI levels originally came on 1 CD but Audi released a 'final level' set of 3 CDs [MMI 5510 CD1, Bluetooth Phone CD2, MMI 5570 CD3] to take 2G MMIs to 5570 on all cars [A8, Q7, A6] that supported it. 'MattyLondon' is quoting the 3CD set - 4L0998961 - and the 1CD set for MMI level 1110 - 4E0998961H. [You'll see elsewhere that 1110 is the supposed 'starting point' quoted for the 5510/5570 update but can confirm that I updated my 0890 level to 5510 in one go].

The 5CD sets on Ebay are the official 3CD set above and 'dodgy' 2DVD 2016 Navigation DVDS!

Thus; you should only need the 3CD set. CD2 is only needed if you have a Bluetooth ECU in your car - VCDS shows this as ECU 77 - 'Handyvorb2'. If you have a 77 - 'TelefonModul EU' then you don't have BT and don't need to use CD2.

One thing that might happen is that one or more ECUs go into CP - Component Protection - which disables it in some form. This can only be fixed by a trip to an Audi dealer although some reports suggest this can be fixed by running the CDs again! Not sure myself that this works; in my case the Bose amp went into CP and I had to get my dealer to fix it. [No-one seems to know why CP kicks in and under what circumstances so it becomes a 'give it a go and see what happens'].

To fix your apparent problem I would suggest you get the 3CD set and only update with CD1 to 5510. The hybridTV was suppported by this level and its firmware level will be set to 119 if not already set or exceeded.

regards - Julian

ColinR32 14th April 2016 07:56 PM

thank you all so much,

eventually a forum where people know there stuff +++

i will scan car tomorrow and get a screenshot posted up aswell to add to your log buddy.

am i also correct in saying you were able to buy the 3 discs set and uses only the first disc?

i currentyl have bluetooth which works flawlessly with my iphone 5 justy now so not really interested in changing bluetooth at all.

JulianHicks 14th April 2016 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColinR32 (Post 110324)
thank you all so much,

eventually a forum where people know there stuff +++

i will scan car tomorrow and get a screenshot posted up aswell to add to your log buddy.

am i also correct in saying you were able to buy the 3 discs set and uses only the first disc?

i currentyl have bluetooth which works flawlessly with my iphone 5 justy now so not really interested in changing bluetooth at all.

If you run the VCDS Autoscan on your 0900 system perhaps you'll email me the logfile that gets stored in the Scans folder?

I bought the 3CD set from my dealer in Kent; I ran the engine and used CD1 to update my 0890 MMI software to 5150. [If you do this step it should fix your TV problem].

Then I ran CD3 to go to MMI 5570. I don't have a BT phone unit so I didn't use CD2 which only has updates to take BT firmware to 1130.

There's no BT updates on CD1 or CD3; if your BT unit works to your satisfaction, I'd run them but wouldn't run CD2.

Julian

PS I presume you know how to run the MMI CDs from the CD changer using the Update menu [aka Red Screen]?

H-M3 22nd April 2016 01:07 AM

bump!
any update for us learners?+++

ColinR32 23rd April 2016 07:55 AM

Sorry been real busy but an update for yous,

After eventually getting the update discs and only after 40/50mins of updates i now have working digital tv absloutely flawless at that,

So currently now i have installed an aux cable aswell

Everythingg really is so easy when you have people who know there stuff (i.e you guys on here)

Thanks all for you help hopefully i can pass this info on to anyone else who needs help

H-M3 24th April 2016 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColinR32 (Post 110851)
Sorry been real busy but an update for yous,

After eventually getting the update discs and only after 40/50mins of updates i now have working digital tv absloutely flawless at that,

So currently now i have installed an aux cable aswell

Everythingg really is so easy when you have people who know there stuff (i.e you guys on here)

Thanks all for you help hopefully i can pass this info on to anyone else who needs help

did you manage to get hold of the original SW cds?


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