ABS 00003 control module 014 defective...
 

Was just resetting the tourist solution after two weeks away in the D3. While I had the laptop out I did a scan and had a few errors of no concern, bar this one

03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4E0-910-517.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 517 J HW: 4E0 614 517 CP
Component: ESP 5.7 allrad H50 0540
Coding: 0008357
Shop #: WSC 02313 000 00000
VCID: 2A511C7185E4089

1 Fault Found:
00003 - Control Module
014 - Defective

I have no warning lights on the dash or when previously using the 'check' button. (Only found out about that feature watching my 4 yr old son press every button on the car). The ABS seems to work well. We had to avoid a Merc entering our lane at speed in the wet, to avoid a car that stopped in front of it on the toll roads in France while away. The ABS and ESP seemed to do their jobs immensely.

Anyone have any experience of this fault?

Hi John,

Was there a date logged with the fault? Can you clear the fault memory? Have you gone through the output tests?

Try the above and let us know the results.

Hi Matt.

I didn't have the opportunity yesterday to do that, but will try to today and update.

Thanks, John.

Hi again. When cleared the fault returns. I hadn't run the output tests, but gave it a bash and the EPB light, headlight range and brake lights flashed on the dash for a bit. Then the control module became unreachable. And VCDS crashed. No dates logged with the code. Seems the module is goosed. Switched the car off and repeatedly cleared the codes like I've read to on Ross Tech's site. All dash warning lights have disappeared.

All works perfectly. Bit odd.

Running the VCDS Output tests causes this on the D3. Rosstech give a procedure to clear it on their site but it didn't work for anyone on another site's thread. I contacted them and they said unplug the connector from the ABS hydraulic unit overnight. To be honest I can't be bothered due to risk of breaking a clip or something.

Oh that's interesting. Thank you for telling me. I didn't know.

I have something like it (times 5)
Does this mean that I will have to unplug and wait five nights?

Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4E0-910-517.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 517 B HW: 4E0 614 517 M
Component: ESP 5.7 allrad H44 0500
Coding: 0008357
Shop #: WSC 00196 000 00000
VCID: 224BC6BDFD2A9C2E60-8076

5 Faults Found:
00003 - Control Module
014 - Defective - Intermittent
00003 - Control Module
014 - Defective - Intermittent
00003 - Control Module
014 - Defective - Intermittent
00003 - Control Module
014 - Defective - Intermittent
00003 - Control Module
014 - Defective

Ha. Oooh. Yours looks MUCH worse than mine Ray. +++

I only wanted to let you know that there is always someone worse of than yourself :p
Apart from that the brakes seem to work OK
In fact management is quite happy driving the 8.

I feel at least 5 times better off than you mate ;)

I am afraid you will have to live with that fault.
I have it too cannot get rid of it even tried swapping out the abs module.
Some say it's corroded wires going to the abs.
Does not seem to affect anything.

Cheers mate. I'm happy to live with it. Gone are the days where I'd have to have everything perfect. As long as it functions like it should, that's fine with me.

It seems not to worry anything.
If you google it you will find lots with the same error code going crazy trying to get rid of it

I've lived with mine for over two years and she stops whenever I request her to (the brakes on the 8 also work).
I guess it will be with us until the day one of us passes :)

When you've swapped the abs module you will always get that error unless you got a brand new one and had it fitted by Audi - at least that's what I'm led to believe

A couple of years ago.
I bought a used abs and got same error as the original.
Thought this one has the same problem.
Sent the new used one away to get reconditioned in the states.
Installed it when it came back.
Guess what "........same error code.

So live with it unless you want to try a new abs.

Also heard it's doing the brake testing routine with the vag com that does it.
I know I did it before I noticed the error code

A man on another forum had this problem and a couple of people in the thread said it was caused by running output tests - eventually, he bought a used one and fitted it and had no errors, but the daft brush then ran the output tests and it happened again. People on the thread chastised him for ignoring their warnings.

It is a shame that it happens as nobody likes error codes and if it did really become defective you would'nt know as it always says it.
It also can set errors in other modules which have an error saying error in ABS module.

Seeing as I have the fault five times does this mean that if I do the output tests I will then have it sixfold?

I have not seen it as multi faults.
Try it and find out

I'll have to take something first to build up Dutch courage :)
My luck is that it will break something else :mad:

You're lucky to have it 5 times already. That's the way I see it!

Hi There,

Did anyone find a solution ???

I've got this too....Brakes work fine and always have done. The ESP button I don't think works though I've never really seen the need to use it (I did change the button at one point but that made no difference).

I'm not too bothered but recently i've got a big ! and the logo lit up when driving.....seems to last about 30 seconds then go away. Appears to be under acceleration rather than braking but haven't yet found an error.....Did 300 miles at the weekend with it only once and then today on 12 mile commute it came up!

Lee

Low brake fluid? As you accelerate fluid shifts backwards, level at the float drops and light comes on.

Hi There,

Could be. I went to check but found my stash was out. Bottle of fluid due today!
I'm still curious about resetting the module though as it seems to be working and doing all the important stuff, just some form of bit not set causing the error in VCDS and then not logging errors properly!

Lee

Well....Whilst it didn't take much in the way of brake fluid, I've not had the flash occur since, so I think it was fluid!

I've just had a bit of a play with the ABS with VCDS and an old version of VCP (5 or 6) - I tried logging in, resetting and recoding all with reasonable success.

However i've not been able to clear the fault. I think it is some sort of bit set in software rather than an actual fault with it. I hoped adaption / coding would sort it but NOPE.

I'm guessing a software flash probably would, but I can't seem to find how or where to do this apart from specialist shops / Audi

It's an irritation, but i'll live!

Lee

Hi Lee,

The ABS, ESP 5.7 in the D3, isn't flashable.

Really.....Could have sworn i'd read about the dealers updating the software on it ??? Am guessing that it's beyond the normal software and into VAS5054 / ODIS etc

When using ODIS engineering it gives a bit more info on the modules. I've attached a screen grab of a D3 Odis report where you can see the flash status of the ABS and a few others. Also there's no SGO files that match the software version for the ABS. So not flashable and no firmware available. It's probably a safety / liability constraint.

Ah. DAMN. Was pondering going down the rabbit hole with the various Chinese versions of VAS as I've always wondered what quite you could do with it!

There *MUST* be a way to reset it, as reading it's a readiness fault. It's quite how you get it to check and OK it's self.

Maybe i need to have a look at the scripts that are being run in the readiness check and see if they'res a way to modify them to get them to run or cut them down or something???

Irksome as it disables the ESP off button and means diagnosis is tricky. The thing still seems to fully work