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mattylondon 3rd February 2017 08:52 AM

Graphical PDC module for sale.
 
I spotted this on ebay. Not mine but thought I'd flag this up for people looking for the graphical upgrade. The photos have the correct 'C' revision, description does say 'A'. Could be worth checking.

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/192027912145

JulianHicks 4th February 2017 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattylondon (Post 123774)
I spotted this on ebay. Not mine but thought I'd flag this up for people looking for the graphical upgrade. The photos have the correct 'C' revision, description does say 'A'. Could be worth checking.

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/192027912145

Checked it and bought it! Just got to work out where it goes and what I need to do! Thanks Matty ...

Julian

mattylondon 6th February 2017 08:56 AM

Glad someone bought it +++

It's a straight swap with your existing module (it's next to the radio in the boot left hand side secured to the wall around the rear suspension strut). Coding will be the same as your current. It may need to be enabled from the MMI menu.

Architex_mA8tey 6th February 2017 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mattylondon (Post 123958)
Glad someone bought it +++

It's a straight swap with your existing module (it's next to the radio in the boot left hand side secured to the wall around the rear suspension strut). Coding will be the same as your current. It may need to be enabled from the MMI menu.

Are you sure coding is the same? I thought that you had to enable it in the hidden menu plus adjust the coding as well, I seem to remember 2 things had to be done once you had swapped the module? :Confused:

mattylondon 6th February 2017 11:19 AM

Doubled check the coding and yes, you're correct, bit 2 need updating with a 2 or 3. See below +++
Code:

Coding the control unit
The code is composed as follows:
0 X X X X X X : Always
  0 X X X X X : Without fingerprint identification, without visual parking system
  1 X X X X X : With fingerprint identification, without visual parking system
  2 X X X X X : Without fingerprint identification, with visual parking system
  3 X X X X X : With fingerprint identification, with visual parking system

    0 X X X X : Without trailer hitch, without rear-view camera
    1 X X X X : With trailer hitch, without rear-view camera
    2 X X X X : Without trailer hitch, with rear-view camera
    3 X X X X : With trailer hitch, with rear-view camera
      0 X X X : Manual
      1 X X X : Automatic gearbox
        0 X X : ECE countries
        1 X X : Single Frame ECE countries (12-cylinder engine)
        2 X X : USA
        3 X X : Single Frame USA (12-cylinder engine)
          0 X : Saloon
            8 : A8 2003E


JulianHicks 6th February 2017 12:16 PM

Thanks Guys; at least I now know where the ECU is, which will hopefully be a simple swap.

As to coding, I assumed it would'nt need changing as it would retain its coding from the previous car, although I HAD looked at the VCDS label file for the ECU to see what could/might be set. But now your comments have set me thinking; it may have the parking aid bit set but the ECU could well have been coded differently for other options the car might have had, so I will need to set it appropriately for my car with VCDS.

WIth regard to the MMI menu, I've never seen the parking aid in the MMI; am I right in assuming that the control head will 'see' the different ECU/coding and adapt the MMI menus to include the extra parking aid info?

Julian

mattylondon 6th February 2017 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JulianHicks (Post 123965)
WIth regard to the MMI menu, I've never seen the parking aid in the MMI; am I right in assuming that the control head will 'see' the different ECU/coding and adapt the MMI menus to include the extra parking aid info?

May need to reboot the MMI after installation. When the 'C' module is installed the graphic feature is called Audi Parking System. I think you go 'Car' > 'Systems' and it's near the top as it's sorted alphabetically.

Previously you will have the parking aid in the MMI somewhere as you can set the volume of the beeps.

JulianHicks 6th February 2017 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattylondon (Post 123960)
Doubled check the coding and yes, you're correct, bit 2 need updating with a 2 or 3. See below +++

BTW Matt, that's an interesting bit map table for the ECU coding! It's obviously not out of the VCDS label file - where did you get it?

Julian

mattylondon 6th February 2017 01:47 PM

Yeah, quite a bit of VCDS documentation is out of date or missing. I keep all what I find / discover in my own notes.

tc4332 6th February 2017 06:19 PM

Julian, I was thinking of beating you to it but then remembered that with reversing camera view in the MMI it would not work for me.
I have fitted an x-car link for the reverse camera and it takes control of the MMI blanking all other system feeds.
Hope that load of drivel makes sense. :D

JulianHicks 8th February 2017 09:58 AM

Job done ...
 
PDC ECU turned up at 1015am.

Slightly tricky to remove three connectors from the car's ECU until I realised I needed a screwdriver to push the tabs in. Plugged the connectors into the replacement ECU.

Turned ignition on; connected VCDS and scanned the ECU.

Coding needed changing; it was 0201008 [optical parking, automatic, etc.] but I've got fingerprint reader so needed 0301008.

Scanned and found fault code from July 2016; cleared that.

Didn't need to do anything to MMI; just pressed button on dash and visual display came up.

Job done - 25 mins from the time the packet arrived.

Julian

Thanks for spotting that one Matt!

mattylondon 8th February 2017 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JulianHicks (Post 124124)
Job done - 25 mins from the time the packet arrived.

Nice one +++

tc4332 8th February 2017 06:20 PM

I have just had a thought.
I could use the graphical for checking clearance except when reverse gear is engaged.

Echo 16th March 2021 11:53 PM

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I had a read through the above, and am very grateful for the info, thanks! :)

A bit old hat to most of you I think, but, seeing as I've recently updated the MMI 2G to 5570, I thought I'd have a go at the graphic PDC upgrade.

The PDC upgrade didn't work until the MMI update was installed.

Old PDC module with just the beeps:

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...1&d=1615940453

Address 76: Park Assist Labels: 4E0-910-283.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 283 A HW: 4E0 919 283 B
Component: Parkhilfe 8-Kan H12 0020
Revision: --.--.-- Serial number: 08730410705079
Coding: 0001008
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 211FE2479DC914935CC-8074

No fault code found.

New (used) PDC module with beeps and graphics:

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...1&d=1615940725

Address 76: Park Assist Labels: 4E0-910-283.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 283 C HW: 4E0 919 283 C
Component: Parkhilfe 8-Kan H12 0040
Revision: 00H12000 Serial number: 08740819200442
Coding: 0201008
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 2313E84F87D506834E0-8076

No fault code found.

And now, when reverse gear is selected, the screen shows this:

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...1&d=1615942225

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...1&d=1615942347

Well I think it's pretty neat anyway +++

IT 17th March 2021 08:35 AM

Glad you got another upgrade sorted, and thanks for posting the detail, it may well help someone else in the future +++

Echo 17th March 2021 09:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by IT (Post 163923)
Glad you got another upgrade sorted, and thanks for posting the detail, it may well help someone else in the future +++

Thanks IT.

Not bad for £20 :)

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...1&d=1615977270

homer simpson 17th March 2021 11:17 AM

Bargain! Now if you really want to go the whole mile, add the camera :)

Echo 17th March 2021 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by homer simpson (Post 163928)
Bargain! Now if you really want to go the whole mile, add the camera :)

Now that would be very nice Mr Simpson!

Very expensive though eh?

homer simpson 17th March 2021 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Echo (Post 163929)
Now that would be very nice Mr Simpson!

Very expensive though eh?

Camera, wiring, boot trim and coding. If your module doesn't support it (haven't looked) then that too!

Echo 17th March 2021 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by homer simpson (Post 163938)
Camera, wiring, boot trim and coding. If your module doesn't support it (haven't looked) then that too!

Which module is that?

homer simpson 17th March 2021 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Echo (Post 163939)
Which module is that?

The PDC module you just bought, although I think it is fine

Echo 17th March 2021 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homer simpson (Post 163940)
The PDC module you just bought, although I think it is fine

Ah, ok, thanks :o

mattylondon 17th March 2021 08:50 PM

RVC will need a D revision PDC module.

Nice addition to your A8 +++

Echo 17th March 2021 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattylondon (Post 163945)
RVC will need a D revision PDC module.

Erm, what about this Matty.............

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattylondon (Post 86691)
This is my assumption

4E0919283A - 8 sensors, no graphical support
4E0919283B - 8 sensors, no graphical support
4E0919283C - 8 sensors, graphical support, rear view camera support
4E0919283D - 8 sensors, graphical support, rear view camera support

From here:

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/showthread.php?t=9310

HPsauce 17th March 2021 10:21 PM

As listed by our sponsors: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audi-A8-D...-/132719019218
No mention of camera support though, so maybe call them?

mattylondon 17th March 2021 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Echo (Post 163948)
Erm, what about this Matty.............

I guess we can deduce one of my comments is wrong :D

Echo 17th March 2021 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPsauce (Post 163949)
As listed by our sponsors: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audi-A8-D...-/132719019218
No mention of camera support though, so maybe call them?

Yes, saw that HP, thanks.

Matty has reconsidered :D


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