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awolfinsheepsclothes 16th July 2017 07:32 PM

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I've been having problems with my car and someone from Ebay said this will sort it

HPsauce 16th July 2017 07:40 PM

Where would that go on a 5-speed auto? :Confused:

awolfinsheepsclothes 16th July 2017 07:41 PM

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so i purchased his knob and it didn't fit so i had to change the shaft thingy which he described as a linkage.

awolfinsheepsclothes 16th July 2017 07:46 PM

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his so called linkage wouldn't connect either and sold me another part

MikkiJayne 16th July 2017 07:50 PM

Are you using an 01E or something later?

Ha! posts crossed in the ether. 0A2?

awolfinsheepsclothes 16th July 2017 07:57 PM

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that didn't fit either so i changed suppliers but he sold me more stuff it was shinny, it did bolt on but my car still didn't work

HPsauce 16th July 2017 07:59 PM

I think I know where this is leading......
http://www.renntech.org/forums/uploa...1147675458.jpg

awolfinsheepsclothes 16th July 2017 08:04 PM

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apparently its a 0A3 from a B7 RS4 what ever that is. anyway once cleaned it up a bit it all bolted together.

MikkiJayne 16th July 2017 08:10 PM

Good stuff :) Looks like you're going to beat me to it then - my FE has three pedals and an 01E but no engine!

Are you doing the swap yourself?

HPsauce 16th July 2017 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MikkiJayne (Post 130389)
my FE has three pedals and an 01E but no engine!

Is that the Avus Silver (and Red!) FE I "assisted" with as "procurement adviser"?

awolfinsheepsclothes 16th July 2017 08:15 PM

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it all bolted together nicely. i made some temporary adjustable gearbox mounts so i could adjust the box position up/down /left/right from under the car. lengthened the linkage 90mm

awolfinsheepsclothes 16th July 2017 08:33 PM

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so the gear knob does fit but you have to change a few parts. And I've still finish my driveshafts, prop, clutch pedal, ecu. its all doable but it just takes time. Dave

David's8 16th July 2017 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by awolfinsheepsclothes (Post 130393)
so the gear knob does fit but you have to change a few parts. And I've still finish my driveshafts, prop, clutch pedal, ecu. its all doable but it just takes time. Dave

Phew! Glad you got the knob to fit properly in the end - otherwise it would have been a complete waste of money :ROFL:

Good effort and :respekt:

awolfinsheepsclothes 16th July 2017 08:42 PM

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Hi MikkiJayne yes all on my own. mike said you had started yours I've still plenty todo I'm just working through everything as i get to it. Dave

MikkiJayne 16th July 2017 09:25 PM

No RHD manual D2s for 22 years and then two come along at once :D

Interesting to see that the B/C chassis shifter setup fits in the D2 body. The factory D2 shifter is characteristically arcane and higgledy piggledy for no apparent reason.

It'll be interesting to compare notes when we're both finished +++

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Originally Posted by HPsauce (Post 130390)
Is that the Avus Silver (and Red!) FE I "assisted" with as "procurement adviser"?

Yes :)

Johnmed 16th July 2017 11:15 PM

You folks make this stuff look easy!

Ameiseuk 17th July 2017 11:29 AM

Nice use of a hand pallet truck!

awolfinsheepsclothes 17th July 2017 06:50 PM

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The pump truck is mikes idea from his engine removal thread. After getting the car up on the ramp and looking at the bellhousing bolts and starter motor.
it would be a nightmare just removing the gearbox. when the car was assembled at the factory the engine and box go in together. it really was very easy to remove the front of the car disconnect, everything and just wheel it out. most things are easy to get at, no seized bolts! beautifully designed and engineered and a joy to work on. i did have access to full workshop with ramp, gearbox jacks,engine crane and mechanic mate.
But i chose to just do it outside in the sun on my own, all i needed was trolly jack, axle stands, pump truck, ratchet strap, and some blocks of wood and a few tools. It was very easy and most people could do it at home on there drive. its all made to be assembled quickly and efficiently.
with a few adjustable legs welded onto the pump truck or a frame!
instead of the timbers i used, installation would be even easier keeping it at the correct angle so the subframe bolts are easy to put in.

27litres 18th July 2017 05:29 AM

What did you do for your pedal set up and master cylinder to get the clutch working?

Goran 19th July 2017 03:44 PM

How did I miss this thread???? :D

Well done Dave! +++

I hope I get to see the car in person soon.
Please post up more pics of the conversion. If I remember from the audisrs thread the 0A3 doesn't have a speed signal or something, how did you get this to work?

homer simpson 19th July 2017 07:00 PM

I love these sort of threads - well done!

Goran 21st July 2017 09:47 AM

Pictures of pedal boxes from both of you please :)
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Dave, so is the 0A3 a direct bolt on to the 40V V8? No adaptor plate needed?
Amazing!

awolfinsheepsclothes 21st July 2017 11:21 AM

I've not started on the clutch pedal fully yet just looked at it. My next job is the front driveshafts and if these do end up being custom made, they would probably take a few weeks to make so I need to order them when I'm happy with the length. But at the moment I'm looking through VAG Driveshaft catalogues trying to find OEM ones that fit. Yes Goran the box just bolts up fine using all the original bolts (just needs a stepped nut making for I think it was the starter side. At fist glance it looks like the speedo just needs a 8tooth (I need to check this before I start making one) trigger wheel off the n/s front inner tripod joint. At the moment I'm just fitting it in when I can no rush.
Dave

awolfinsheepsclothes 21st July 2017 11:32 AM

The 0A3 is fitted in the S4 with a 40v V8
The gearbox is a ZF unit model 466 and the same family as a Porsche Boxster and Cayman A4, A6, skoda superb ,so is a modular unit.
Dave

tintin 21st July 2017 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Goran (Post 130527)
How did I miss this thread???? :D

Probably because of the thread title Goran ;). All fascinating, and I'm watching with great interest...

MikkiJayne 21st July 2017 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by awolfinsheepsclothes (Post 130588)
But at the moment I'm looking through VAG Driveshaft catalogues trying to find OEM ones that fit.

Have you looked at C6 / 7 A6? I was pondering that as an option when I was considering an 0A3 as they have the same small tripod joints, and they're pretty wide compared to older versions. The other option may be Allroad shafts with spacers. They have the same inners as the 0A3 and the same outers as the D2. Not sure how much short they are tho. I might measure them at the weekend.

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Originally Posted by awolfinsheepsclothes (Post 130588)
At fist glance it looks like the speedo just needs a 8tooth (I need to check this before I start making one) trigger wheel off the n/s front inner tripod joint.

I think its 4 tooth, or 4 magnets on a ring in the 01E. I read somewhere that the diff cover from an 01E will fit an 0A3, giving you the space for the speed sensor and the magnetic ring which drives it. I haven't tried it, but it might be worth investigating :) If you used Allroad shafts with spacers you could put some magnets in the n/s spacer to trigger the hall sender.

awolfinsheepsclothes 22nd July 2017 12:00 PM

Goran i'm very disappointed in you for missing this thread!
MikkiJayne I've looked a little at the c6/7 A6 but I've not found any that are perfect yet on the skf website and i'd rather not use spacers.
i did notice 01E sides cover looked the same, but i didn't to want buy a gearbox to find out i was mistaken. i think my fbg has 8 trigger magnets but I've not opened it up yet.
Dave

MikkiJayne 22nd July 2017 01:17 PM

I'm a bit busy at the moment, but if I get time before you figure it out yourself I'll fish both boxes out and have a look at the covers +++

27litres 22nd July 2017 11:20 PM

I just remembered a thread I came across some time ago posted on an unusual forum (not an Audi forum, and not really a car forum - none of us would have any reason to visit it other than courtesy of Mr Google).
You may know of the guy who posted it, he used to frequent the AudiSport forum I think, as he has done a number of B5 A4 V8 conversions in the UK.

Anyhow, a few years back he bought a D2 S8 with the intention to do a RHD manual conversion. He never completed it (or started it AFAIK) as he sold the car.
However he did post the following observations on the oddball forum:
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Yesterday, I took a look at the driver's side footwell, to assess clearance for the clutch pedal in my first steps to running RONIN with a 6-speed manual.

And just as I thought, the pedal cluster (brake and clutch) from a LHD Audi S8 6-speed manual won't fit. So a different approach is required. I'll be replacing the current wide brake pedal with a narrower one (manual) from an Audi A6 C5. This will give me a bit more room for a clutch pedal. So, I will be grafting in half an Audi A4 B6 pedal cluster, which will carry just the clutch pedal, and clutch master cylinder.

Happy days - 6-speed manual, here we come!
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I spent this afternoon looking at solutions to the clutch pedal in Project RONIN. I have cracked it. I shall be adapting the manual pedal cluster of a 2005 Audi A6 Quattro, this way, the "bulge" in the footwell of my RHD Audi S8 remains. I don't want to take a hammer to the floorpan, or cut the bulge out.
I don't know if this is of any help to either Dave, or MJ, as I'm sure MJ particularly has looked at any number of solutions...

MikkiJayne 23rd July 2017 07:27 AM

Nollywood?

I'm not sure what the reference to the bulge in the floorpan is. There's loads of space with the footrest out - nothing needs modifying on the floor. The footrest just needs to be made narrower to make room for three pedals with OE spacing.

Goran 23rd July 2017 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by awolfinsheepsclothes (Post 130624)
Goran i'm very disappointed in you for missing this thread!
MikkiJayne I've looked a little at the c6/7 A6 but I've not found any that are perfect yet on the skf website and i'd rather not use spacers.
i did notice 01E sides cover looked the same, but i didn't to want buy a gearbox to find out i was mistaken. i think my fbg has 8 trigger magnets but I've not opened it up yet.
Dave

Lol! I need to be a lot more observant. That's great that the 0A3 fits and has the same bolt pattern. Very tempting in the future to get rid of the 01E. +++

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Originally Posted by 27litres (Post 130633)
I just remembered a thread I came across some time ago posted on an unusual forum (not an Audi forum, and not really a car forum - none of us would have any reason to visit it other than courtesy of Mr Google).
You may know of the guy who posted it, he used to frequent the AudiSport forum I think, as he has done a number of B5 A4 V8 conversions in the UK.

Anyhow, a few years back he bought a D2 S8 with the intention to do a RHD manual conversion. He never completed it (or started it AFAIK) as he sold the car.
However he did post the following observations on the oddball forum:




I don't know if this is of any help to either Dave, or MJ, as I'm sure MJ particularly has looked at any number of solutions...

We fitted a RHD stock pedal cluster with all 3 pedals in the shell of a D2 at A8parts open day, it fit just fine the clutch pedal clears everything. Neil posted a photo of it in the other thread.
The beauty of the RHD pedal casting is that it already has room on the shaft for a clutch pedal. The stock brake pedal can be used too, just the foot pad plate needs to be made narrower and either welded on to a different position to give more space between the clutch and brake, or if you have access to a industrial metal bender the brake pedal can be bent to a new shape for the right pad placement. Only the clutch pedal needs to be custom made. And a custom mounting bracket for the master cylinder.

awolfinsheepsclothes 29th July 2017 07:25 PM

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I'd already started on the custom gearbox mounts when a pair of skoda superb gearbox mounts appeared on Evilbay! i'd almost given up looking for these. i had done the research and these could fit and a nice off the shelf solution would make this conversion easy and cheap for me and everyone else. £40 delivered it was worth the gamble after all its the same gearbox family. anyway they arrived eventually and i offered them up! only 35mm out in one direction from being perfect. so if the subframe was parallel i could move the rear lower gearbox mounting base (cut it off and reweld) i'm not that keen on that solution . or make a offset base and use the skoda mounts, this easier and cheaper. not many people would want to spend £400-500 on CNC,d gearbox mounts.
Dave

MikkiJayne 29th July 2017 08:03 PM

Ooh good find. I thought everything with that gearbox used the crossmember style mount.

If I understand correctly, you're going to make an adapter piece which will sit between the D2 subframe and the Skoda mounts?

awolfinsheepsclothes 30th July 2017 09:32 AM

Yes between the subframe and the gearbox mounting rubbers

Goran 1st August 2017 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by awolfinsheepsclothes (Post 130938)
Yes between the subframe and the gearbox mounting rubbers

Are the S8 01E gearbox mounts no longer available from the dealer?
I cant remember how much they were, something around £100?

awolfinsheepsclothes 1st August 2017 09:34 AM

Hi Goran I'm not sure they'd fit my gearbox (I did think I'd checked) but maybe I didn't! Do they look the same fitment to you?
Dave

awolfinsheepsclothes 1st August 2017 09:41 AM

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These are the RS4 ones

MikkiJayne 1st August 2017 09:55 AM

Pretty sure they are different. I can have a look later though.

Goran 1st August 2017 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by awolfinsheepsclothes (Post 131027)
Hi Goran I'm not sure they'd fit my gearbox (I did think I'd checked) but maybe I didn't! Do they look the same fitment to you?
Dave

Hi Dave, sorry I completely forgot you have a 0A3.
I guess it has to be some customization to fit it onto a D2 subframe.
Shame machining costs are so much. Random crazy idea, I have seen home made foundrys on google that can cast aluminium, but I'm not sure how easy it is to cast the right grade or how strong such low pressure castings would be? Perhaps Audi's castings are under pressure and denser/stronger?

MikkiJayne 1st August 2017 01:19 PM

They look sand-cast so nothing out of the ordinary. Just webs where the strength needs to be. Problem with that for short runs is that you do need to machine the mounting points after casting.

Tbh I'd just make them from aluminium stock. Make a mockup from MDF, then transfer that to aluminium bar or plate, then take the pieces and get them tig welded. If they become NLA I'll copy the factory 01E mounts like that by making a steel jig. Get the alu parts laser cut, bolt them to the jig and get them tigged together.

Extrapolating, you could make them from steel even more easily, and if you used thin wall tube with bracing you'd be maybe 2-3 times the weight of an alu part, but overall still far lighter than the 5hp24 :)


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