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goldsax 26th July 2017 10:41 AM

2006 4.2 tdI rear disk rear pads front pads:questions
 
need some advice please
called an Audi indie yesterday re. cost of F/R pads only replacement.
they said that the rear disks were lipped and would also need to be changed.
total cost £780
to me that sounds a lot.
i am aware that the 4.2TDi has larger disks and pads.
looking at ebay and eurocarparts they have varing sizes.
and the process also will need VAGCOM for rear reset.
any idea what size ( parts) i need?
any idea where a VAGCOm competent garage/indie/person may be able to do it? does it have to be Audi? can a VW garage do it.

i hope i dont come across as trying to work to an unrealistically small budget. but £780 is a lot of money esp when i can buy quality parts for approx £350( i presume)
I am in Leicestershire
many thanks raj

snapdragon 26th July 2017 10:51 AM

The only way to tell what parts you need is to check the 3 digit PR codes in your build stickers (wheel well, service book)
1LL, 1LK, 1KW etc..

Eurocarparts often lists these in the description.
Once you know, you can cross-reference part numbers and find cheaper from motor factors (such as premier factors) on ebay.
Eurocarparts discs and pads are not a good price for our cars.

goldsax 26th July 2017 11:27 AM

many thanks for your quick reply.
my code is 1LL
as you said, some parts form ECP state the PR codes.
thanks for the info.
raj

mattylondon 26th July 2017 11:33 AM

Wow, so that's £780 for front pads and rear pads + dics? Does seem expensive to me, I guess the Garage has got to make a profit. But jobs like this you can do yourself with VCDS.

1LL refers to the front discs, 360mm, if you have them you should have 1KW which is 310mm rears.

snapdragon 26th July 2017 12:21 PM

Mine is 1LL and 1KW.
For my fronts 1LL branded parts start at ~£150 inc. optional fluid, clips, screws and sundries.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/391085697984
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231803848030
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/311880121080
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/351542207260

Rears, I can't find the invoice.

For reference, Audi dealer quoted me £1700 to do pads and discs all round at the MOT last month.

goldsax 26th July 2017 12:32 PM

thanks Matt.
yes i can see code 1KW on the build sheet


this cannot be correct ... pagid/febi/brembo parts
front pads code 1LL
rear pads code 1KW
rear disk code 1KW
totals approx £150 !!!!

so the rest is labour!!!!
i can do the front pads, its the rear ones. any idea what the book time would be?
thanks again for your help.

H-M3 26th July 2017 12:36 PM

I am sure they quoted you for discs and pads!!:Confused:

goldsax 26th July 2017 12:36 PM

thanks snapdragon for posting the ebay links
for the front i should purchase/replace

1) retaining bolts
2) fixing kit
per se the links you have provided.
any guidence re. accessories for the rear?

goldsax 26th July 2017 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H-M3 (Post 130806)
I am sure they quoted you for discs and pads!!:Confused:

no, that was for F/R pads and rear only discs + fitting.
and as snapdragon has said Audi dealship has quoted him £1700.

am i missing something here? :Confused:
do these garages sprikle fairy dust on their work to justify these costs?

H-M3 26th July 2017 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snapdragon (Post 130804)
Mine is 1LL and 1KW.
For my fronts 1LL branded parts start at ~£150 inc. optional fluid, clips, screws and sundries.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/391085697984
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231803848030
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/311880121080
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/351542207260

Rears, I can't find the invoice.

For reference, Audi dealer quoted me £1700 to do pads and discs all round at the MOT last month.

How are the mintex coping on yours?
Also thanks for the links+++

snapdragon 26th July 2017 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H-M3 (Post 130809)
How are the mintex coping on yours?

I have used them in the past on other cars and they were fine but these are still in my ebay shopping basket. Mintex, Pagid and Textar are all part of Nisshinbo so I assume they are the same. I used Pagid from Eurocarparts on the rear and they were coated with the zinc anti-corrosion coating.
I am not sure if the Mintex have the coating and I would prefer ones that have this.

H-M3 26th July 2017 05:34 PM

Zimmerman are good too as they come coated. My friend Marcin recommended them.

Joe2.0E 26th July 2017 06:13 PM

Would skimming the discs be an option to remove the lip ?
I've never had it done but I saw a garage recently advertising "insitu disc skimming.
I have also had some eyewatering quotes over the years for pads/discs too from my local Dealer on a D3 & D4. Ask for the part no.s to be put on the estimate and a few minutes on eBay will tell you what's what.
Discs don't seem to last like they used to.

Pug 26th July 2017 07:38 PM

Skimming the lip off the discs is plausible. I'd ask Audi for the measured thickness against the minimum allowable thickness to see how deep the lip is. If it's got plenty of 'meat' left, you could skim them. Generally an hours labour per axle.

goldsax 9th August 2017 11:34 AM

update:
front pads, rear pads, rear disk, all pagid branded. fitted by a local garage that had the equipment to relax rear calipers to wind them in. they said it was a 1.5 hour job
cost :

£230 parts/labour/vat included !!!!!

how can an Audi indie quote £750+ and a dealership even more.

thanks all for informing me how to read the relevent bits on the buildsheet.
cheers raj

H-M3 9th August 2017 02:29 PM

Are you sure they were Pajid? Very cheap man!

goldsax 10th August 2017 07:31 AM

i was going to order the parts myself: pagid parts come to £142 +£10 delivary.
but for my DB9 the rear pagid pads alone were £170 !!!

H-M3 11th August 2017 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goldsax (Post 131398)
i was going to order the parts myself: pagid parts come to £142 +£10 delivary.
but for my DB9 the rear pagid pads alone were £170 !!!

any links?

goldsax 11th August 2017 08:25 AM

www.buycarparts.co.uk


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