For Sale - 2004 Audi S4 Cabriolet
 

2004 Audi S4 Cabriolet - AF04 FLR
V8 powered, 344PS, 6 speed manual gearbox

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Phantom Black pearlescent paint, black acoustic roof
Red leather interior, carbon fibre trim

Symphony II double din radio / 6 CD changer
18 inch Avus wheels, matching tyres 4-5mm all round
Milltek catback exhaust – sounds awesome!

168,600 miles covered, high motorway miles in early life which has significantly reduced under my ownership. Regularly serviced, supplied with a folder full of history, documentation and invoices.

• 1/9/2005 14369 Vindis Audi
• 27/6/2006 21488 Vindis Audi
• 22/11/2006 32233 Vindis Audi
• 10/9/2007 52786 Vindis Audi
• 19/5/2008 72042 Vindis Audi
• 11/2/2009 94590 Vindis Audi
• 16/10/2009 116508 Vindis Audi
• 11/6/2010 136602 Vindis Audi
• 21/2/2012 153804 Camspec
• April 2013 163,500
• April 2015 167,800
• May 2017 168,400

Current MOT until 29th June 2019.

Polishes up well for a 14 year old car, but isn't showroom fresh paint wise, some slight rust on front wings and stone chips & minor paint marks in-line with age and mileage.

There is no chain rattle on cold start, car uses some oil but that is not unusual (I've had 3 or 4 S4s over the years, all did!). There is no clutch slip, no cooling issues (aux rads are not leaking), it has had a replacement starter motor. Mileage has been low the last few years (as the MOT history shows), but it has been kept connected to a CTEK charger and run and used regulary!

As it stands it is a great car, but as you would expect there are a few niggles that I want to be open about. Normally I’d resolve before sale, but a 2 year old and 2 week old take all of my spare time, so I will factor into the price!

• The roof motor needs to be replaced, or at least new bushes. This is a common A4 cabriolet issue and an easy fix, at a fixed cost of £95 in Harrogate or get a local garage to fit a £75 part. See http://www.autoelectron.co.uk/drive_in.html for more detail
• The AC condenser was replaced a few years ago, however it hasn’t been used much since and it isn’t cold now. Assume it need a re-gas to get it icy cold again
• My local MOT tester has noted the front top suspension arms have worn bushes for the last 5 years, however there is no knocking or symptoms and a second opinion was that the MOT tester was "keen" so to leave them as they were!

Current private sale guide price is £4,470, trade value £3,730. I am open to offers as it stands if there is interest on the forum, otherwise I will list on ebay when back at work next week!


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Well, the timing couldn't be worse for me, but I'm still tempted by it all the same.

Mileage is the killer. Very tough to price it really.

Can't quite see if its got heated seats and / or cruise.

Its few niggles do add up (although the honesty is always appreciated). No working roof, and no air-con are immediate issues I'd want to fix.

Would I rather drive this, than my D3 ? Yes. 90% of the time I would.....

But would the Miltek sound as good as the B&O?.... Probably :D

With some patience, you'll do better, but for zero hassle trade type purchase I'd give £2750 for it, or £2900 if you get it dropped off in Harrogate.

I suspect something like WBAC would be similar when they've finished inspecting every body panel with a fine tooth comb as they do....

Sadly it has neither, cruise is easy to fit and I planned to do so day 1, but never found the need! There was also a plan for the seat heaters, supposedly the S4 seats have the mats in already so just a kufatec loom and a climate module, but I don't ever use the heated seats in my 8 so didn't investigate too far!

Agreed, or at least the roof! Climate becomes of diminishing value once the roof is down!

Definitely!!!!!

That's a little less than I was hoping for, how close do you live to Starbeck? I could get the roof fixed before I drop it off if it helps :ROFL:

Yeah, agreed, they would probably offer pennies in the pound - it won't be going there for sure!!!

A couple of things I forgot to mention in the original post:

• The car is fitted with shiney RS4 pedals!
• The xenon lights tend to be dimmer than candles at this age on the A4/S4 dur to reflector burn - so these have replacement projectors internally, which are actually bi-xenon lexus items - they are bright, properly working, aligned and legal +++

No worries. Wasn't expecting my arm taking off, but then, I'm really not looking to take on a car right now. I need to be down to 2 cars by the end of July. Buying the S4 would mean I'd be under pressure to sell both the D2 and D3 in the next fortnight.

Fixing the roof on my behalf holds no real extra value to me to be honest than the cost of the job and a couple of 10 quid taxi rides. Invaluable for someone else further away though no doubt.

The price valuations are generally based on the statistics gathered of similar cars going through trade auctions. The problem is, that the S4 4.2 engines don't enjoy a great deal of reliability into 6 figure mileages, and they're getting quite rare now anyway so I doubt there will be any realistic valuations for one with 168K on it, making any valuation, basically nonsense.

I suspect your best option is to Ebay it, with a low start and reserve price you can cope with. You'll end up with ~10% lower than its maybe worth listed on Autotrader, but at least you'll have a fair appraisal of its value from the bidders.

I’m sure I know this car - was it owned by a chap in Surrey as 2nd owner who fitted exhaust? If it’s the one I think it is, it went back and forth to Epsom hospital round the south side of the M25 to rack up most of the miles with the original owner

Oh that is lovely, never driven one of these but I want it badly :love:

Its in my top 3 best ever Audis to drive. (Along side C6 RS6 and C6 S6)

The convertible has a low centre of gravity, so it handles shockingly well, combined with the V8 manual its a really fun car, especially with the roof down.

Boot space is pretty good, quattro 4 wheel drive. Mine had Sat nav, bluetooth, cruise and heated seats which are all retrofittable.

Split grill B6 looks a bit more dated than the big grill B7, but from inside the cabin you can't see that anyway.

They suffer from a handful of issues. Engine timing chain failure is the big one. Rust and roof issues are common across all the A4 Cabriolets, and the wings are Cab specific, and not available as pattern parts, so not cheap to replace.

But a lot of S4 cabs for sale will be suffering all or some of these issues. At least Pauls advert is honest.

I imagine the RS4 Cab he's just got is quite something.....

For contrast, the S5 cab isn't half as special. Sure its more modern, more toys, but the V8 makes this cab come alive. The 3.0Tfsi has some great cracks and pops with the DSG box, but its got no soul. Very clinical in contrast....

I'm going to shut up now, I seen to have diluted another car for sale thread.... ;)

You're really not helping! I have a holiday to pay for! :ROFL:

I posted up here a while ago about getting a cabby, I do have a thing for all the B6 & B7 models and I've always resisted driving a S4 cabby because I know I'd love it and reach for the credit card!

Plus I've caught red leather disease from my D2!

Not a great situation, I have no real pressure to sell other than it is summer, it isn't being used as the RS4 is there when I don't need the A8 and I have builders due to start work soon so don't want it getting damaged! Not sure of the drive to reduce your fleet, but hope all is well!?

I think I will probably list it without a reserve if I go that route, roll the dice and see what happens! I don't want to be relisting it repeatedly :/

That sounds correct, I flew down to Gatwick to collect it from him +++

Red leather disease - only one cure, lots of direct sunlight whilst sitting on red leather listening to a V8 rumble :ROFL:

Yeah, nothing too bad. With 4 kids, a multi-threaded IT career and a part time car sales business, something has to give. The car business, and thus motor trade insurance is set to lapse shortly. Thought I'd simply go back to my old multi-car policy, but they wont touch ex-trader for until 12 months after ceasing trading. I thus have a small window of opportunity to hoover up my pre-motortrade no claims bonuses into 2 personal policies before they expire. Throw in a horrific tax bill from moving from contract to permanent, and shedding some tin is a complete no brainer.....

My commute has changed from a once a week 250 mile motorway round trip to a daily 10 mile B road twister. I'd love the S4, and the faults don't bother me hugely, but its got to be cheap enough to be worth going against the flow of all my other issues right now lol :-)

Time and energy will get you a higher price, but not many other folks will take that S4 away no further questions asked with that mileage... ;)

Now on ebay +++

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2004-Audi...e/232857252993

And now I don't have a working car and need some wheels! :ROFL:

Open to an offer +++ but it is a long way to the Isle of Wight....

Very tempted, to the level where I kind of wish one of my cars failed to give me reason to buy it.

As it was not you who changed to Milltek I suppose you do not have original exhaust to go with it? I am sure Milltek sounds lovely but I have a thing where I just hate how aftermarket exhaust tips stick out too far off the bumper straight and does not follow the shape of car/bumper. So for me if I was to buy it exhaust would need to be changed or at least the tips to be cut off and original/other tips to be welded on to follow the shape of car.

I don't have the original exhaust, I could be wrong but I think the original tips were very similar (i.e. straight cut round) if a little smaller. One thing is for sure, having owned a few S4's and never fitted an Milltek before (for reasons of OEM preference), aurally I have missed out for years!

I am not looking at RS4 options to free up some V8 goodness, the exhaust on the RS has switchable flaps but in all honest, doesn't sound as good as the S4 at present - which needs to be resolved!

You are right. Having had a look at other cars on Autotrader they are all straight but smaller and tucked more into bumper so not sticking out, not like on S8 where they follow bumper line. Still I think OEM looks better but aftermarket could be made look good as well if it was sticking out less and preferably to follow bumper line.

Good luck with the sale, I cannot really justify it as both my cars are working ATM and you are a bit far away even if I am tempted. I did come very close to buying 3.0TDI A4 cab recently when my A6 had high pressure fuel pump issue but had to abandon it when I fixed my car.

Was so tempted. Even only half filled the D3 with fuel today given I've pretty much resigned myself to selling it and moving back into a cab of some sort, but on a 10 day auction that's me out. By the time it ends, I'm packing up to go on hols.

I think this one is not meant to be..... !!

Happy to store it until your return +++

I'm more of an impulse guy. I'll have lost interest in it by the time I get back off hols :D

This Saturday just gone was the day for car swapping for me. Even that would have left me only 10 days to move the D3 on.

Think someone will end up with a bargain there. Combo of high miles, and honesty about its faults paints a bleak picture (quite wrongly) against the other motors out there.

If something was going to happen with that car for me now, it would have to be delivered, or cheaper still to cover a recovery guy I use in Bradford.

Agreed one man's bleak picture is another bargain! Delivered probably isn't an issue given your close by..... if you get a last minute impulse :ROFL:

Must be car swap month - maybe looking to move my D4 on shortly, I'm ready for my fit of the giggles with the PX offer later on this afternoon :ROFL:

Ooh, let us know what it is! I love a good laugh! Might need it if I find out I need a new gearbox later today, money which should being spent on your cab right now!

Hmm. The auction is going slow. I'm guessing this weekend just gone hasn't yielding anything promising and you, like I, are probably starting to wonder if its actually even going to get up the values I originally offered.....

Still happy to have it, delivered. Just want to pay a fair price for it, but like today really, not next Monday :-)

I'll honour my original price of £2900, delivered some time this week, and paid with paypal.

The offer is good until I go to bed tonight which will be early as I'm running on about 3 hours sleep today ;)

High spec, right engine and low miles, possibly still under Audi Warranty? - Should be one of the few D4's actually worth some reasonable money.

But. The auction values of all the other dross out there, will bring the values down, so unless you trade it in with someone that actually has a brain and is going to retail it themselves, the value will be laughable I'm sure.

Sorry Ian, I've just seen this.

Still on ebay, still a bargain, still not sure it will get to £2,900 - assuming you did get some sleep!?

Have turned on notifications now!!!!

I bid 2222.22 on the auction on the basis having it collected would cost 250 and I'll have to store it off road for now until I'll back of hols as timescale is too tight now.

I've been outbid. But not sad really. I think I overoffered originally which is echoed in the auction results.

If you want to end the auction, deliver it to me and take 2500 on PayPal id do it. Or let it run and deal with the Muppet that doesn't turn up to collect it :-)

Offer expires noon tomorrow as this S4 has taken more effort to purchase than cars 10 times its value and I need to move on. again. Lol.

My hero +++

Thanks for the offer, but there is still no chance I could deliver this weekend so I won’t keep you waiting until noon to decline.

The auction moved slowly bids wise, but there are a lot of people watching, so assuming not all are voyeurs I’d not be surprised to see it pick up.

If they don’t turn up, I can second chance offer, or will relist - by which time you will be back from hols +++:ROFL:

Sorry. To be way more clear:

It was descision by noon (done lol)
Full Payment by me today
Delivery any day/ time to suit you.

I wasn't expecting father of new born to suddenly have a immediately spare Saturday morning !!

+++ Enjoy your hols, I'd enjoy a good nights sleep :)

Less than 4 hours to go now, over 3k and the current winning bidder wan’t to collect tonight!

Looks like you didn’t over bid Ian +++

Fingers crossed.

Yes, I'm pleased for you. Genuinely didn't expect it to hit those numbers. Of course, its still got to pass the scrutiny of the winner bidder verse a blind trade purchase, but It looks like you'l be quids in even if they do start nit picking for a few extra quid off +++

Sold +++

(I have a sneaking suspicion to a forum member, which makes me happy!)

Good news on both counts.... Didnt fancy your chances of a super smooth transaction with the trader that nearly got it +++

Oh the irony - second chance offer now sent as the top bid was in error :ROFL:

Oh... The 'joys' of Ebay car auctions...

Runner up, now assumes winning bidder has seen it, its a pup, and doesn't want it, so will be reluctant to pay what he bid, not that he intended to pay full price in the first place ;)

There's still a good number of punters to contact before you get down to my lowly bids though. +++

ok, update needed. Its been 2 days now, and this car sale has been more interesting than anything on telly..... +++

Have you not been watching love island :ROFL:

The buyer (original one) is collecting the car on Friday AM +++

Just to bring this on to a close - car now sold and collected!

I did throw one last curve ball, I went to check it over one last time last night - the battery was totally dead - that will teach me to take the CTEK off before a long auction :ROFL: So the car was delivered with a new battery, care of EuroParts at 8am this morning +++

Result, I've had all the excitement of nearly buying a car, with none of the downsides of actually buying it.... ;)