Road Tax increase ? again is this true ?
 

does any body have the correct figures or is this right


Vehicle Excise Duty from April 1, 2019 for cars registered between March 1, 2001 and March 31, 2017
VED Band CO2 emissions (g/km) 2018-2019 Standard rate* 2019-2020 Standard rate* Increase
A Up to 100 £0 £0 £0
B 101-110 £20 £20 £0
C 111-120 £30 £30 £0
D 121-130 £120 =£125 +£5
E 131-140 £140 =£145 +£5
F 141-150 £155 =£160 +£5
G 151-165 £195 =£200 +£5
H 166-175 £230 =£235 +£5
I 176-185 £250 =£260 +£10
J 186-200 £290 =£300 +£10
K** 201-225 £315 =£325 +£10
L 226-255 £540 =£555 +£15
M Over 255 £555 =£570 +£15

have to pay for all those smart motorways somehow

Hiya

That looks accurate to me (and correct for my S5 based on its current tax rate on CO2) and reflects what I've read around modest increases for older cars. The biggest cash hikes are for post 1/4/19 registered high emitters (but that's only at first registration and once they've reached 5 years old it'll be a flat rate the same as anything else!)

Someone's got to pay for the Paris Climate Accord and all of it's architect's private jets and chaufered limos

***Includes cars with a CO2 figure over 225g/km but were registered before 23 March 2006. - phew!

There isn't much information about cars registered before March 1 2001, maybe they're going up by RPI/£5 since there's no CO2 info available for them to apply the extra £15 increase.

EDIT: Just looked here: https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/...pril-2019.html

Looks like a £10 increase next year.

Have to say the increases are doing my head in. I've owned my 4.2 tdi for about 13 months. Initially £520, then £540 and now going up to £555. As if the fuel prices aren't enough.
Big money for the 6000 miles I do.

Superb drive though, love it.

Is that for a year??? If so I better move to the UK then


Gotta pay 91 euro's a month right now

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I don't understand why anyone on this thread expected road tax pricing to be fixed and not indexed?

Of course it's going to increase each year!

Agree.

Just bitter because my wages haven't gone up by anywhere near that percentage in that timeframe. :mad:

So it looks like Band K, which many of us are in will go up by £10, about 3%.

Just for a laugh (or to see what journey avoided will cover that) work out how many miles you travel for £10 of 99RON petrol..... :eek3:

(It's about 35 miles at the 20mpg or so my S8 guzzles)

6.7% during my 14 month ownership.

K** 201-225 £315 =£325 +£10
L 226-255 £540 =£555 +£15

Mine would be £555 if a couple of months newer but is £325 - ridiculous that these are bands and have punitive jumps for no reason. They should just make it the gCO2/km *1.5 = £

It was to avoid retrospective massive increases on owners of older cars.

In fact, if it's only the CO2 that is the reason for the tax, it certainly isn't based on any scientific reality.
Without CO2 in the atmosphere, there would be no life on earth as we know it.
Plants need the CO2 to extract the Carbon (C) by the photosynthesis.
Anyone who has watched the Battlestar Galactica series knows that life on earth is based on Carbon. The fictional Cylons were based on silicon instead.

In any case. The fact is that we should be grateful that we are no longer living in the little ice-age :) Another fact is that in the 70's there was a worry we might head back into another ice-age. We'll find out as time goes by.

It is also recommended for green houses to add CO2 to help the plants grow, because the air doesn't contain high enough levels! A level between 800-1200ppm is recommended. And doesn't plants thrive in "warmer" climate???

Instead of being taxed, you should be paid for helping the earth be greener and produce more :)

They should just scrap it and add something on to the price of a litre of fuel anr/or a unit of electricity

Swings and roundabouts for people, depending on the mileage they do.

e.g. I have a '08 S8 which has the £535 tax rate, and spends most of the time just sitting there (last two trips were in August and October, totalling around 200 miles), so would be all for adding it to the cost of fuel. I also have a '04 A8 with the £305 tax rate, and have done just over 3,000 mile in six months, so again, would opt to add the cost to fuel. It's when you have people who drive 10k, 20k or even more miles per year, that the idea of adding the cost to fuel isn't such a good idea.

I also have the same thoughts towards car insurance, where I'd like to have car insurance for when I actually use the car, not while it's parked up. There should be some form of two-tier insurance where the first part covers you for the car sitting around in your driveway or garage all year, and the second part that covers you for actual driving, and could be activated/paid as and when required, say for a minimum 7 day period.

There is such insurance https://www.bymiles.co.uk/
I have had a look , it's about £150 per year + 3p/ mile

Cheers. Will look into it.

UPDATE: Thought it sounded familiar. Turns out it's not available in Northern Ireland!

Doesn't really matter how many miles you do, adding to the cost of fuel is fairer for all. I'm a higher mileage driver and would welcome it. If I am doing more miles then of course I should be contributing more to the cost of the roads I use. Instead I have to pay £450 per year siply because the list price of my car new was more than £40,000. That is neither just nor fair, but easier for me to justify to myself than somebody only clocking up a few miles.

To a small extent, it could also further encourage people to buy more economical cars, or consider alternative fuel types, and potentially adjust their driving style too, slowing down a little on motorways for example. I find if I drive at 70mph on the motorway rather than 80mph, my fuel consumption improves by about 15-20%.

And for two car owners it's even better - I can only drive one car at a time, so paying full whack tax on two cars isn't justified.

As for insurance, almost all policies these days are costed on how many miles you declare you will be driving, so this is already part of the price of insurance.

Unable to quote me on both my cars too, something about being incompatible with their "Miles Tracker" whatever that might be :(

Two great points, and I agree with one of them. Up until February this year, I only had the one car, so no issues. However, I then acquired the S8, and shortly afterwards, decided that I wanted to take better care of the D2 A8, and ended up buying a D3 A8 from IT (Ian), and now have three, and as you say, you can only drive one at a time. The D2 has been SORNed since April/May and will remain so until I clean it up, and the S8 will be SORNed before the end of this month until the weather improves again.

The one thing I did find, with my insurer anyway, is that they don't take mileage into account... or so they say. A year or so ago when going for renewal, I noticed a mistake in my policy where they had me down as 'Retired'. I corrected them to have me listed as 'Unemployed' (which I am), and their response was that it would cost me an extra £75! When asked why, they said because as 'Unemployed', I would be driving more and would therefore be more at risk of having an accident.

Fast forward to August this year when I had to renew the policy on the D2, and I changed the mileage from 10,000 to 2,000. The revised price for the shorted mileage was zero. I queried that with them, and mentioned the previous incident, and got the standard response of "that's how it is".

When I was on their site yesterday, checking things out, I used their chat session to ask a few questions, and one of them specifically related to the A8s ability to block GPS signals, as that is how their 'Miles Tracker' works. It appears they do have issues with some cars, but if they really wanted the business, I don't see why they couldn't send one out to you to try (with say a refundable deposit). It is basically an ODB adaptor that records your mileage and has GPS capabilities built-in, and sends that data back to them on a regular basis.

I've put my name down to be informed when/if they come to Northern Ireland, and will definitely be pushing to get an adaptor to try first.