Wanted: low mileage D2/D3 S8
 

Evening all

I am possibly in the market for an S8, either D2 or D3 variant (maybe both :D)

Must be low mileage, sub-60/70k.

Condition, history and provenance more important than spec

Would also consider a UR-Quattro, with less emphasis on the mileage

Please PM me if you have, or if you spot something, suitable

Cheers +++

Expensive and will probably need some money spending on it but certainly looks nice.

Ebay item number
114180742591

I think we've discussed this before and Ian's opinion was that this looks like a special order car, rather than a final edition. Mark and I have the only two FEs in this colour combination that we know of, and we don't have nearly as much leather! But FEs were definitely a moving feast, so I wouldn't rule it out.
That said, if there's a deal to be done after a scan and a check on gearbox service history, I'd jump at this - IMHO, it's lovely!

There have been a couple of low mileage D3 S8's on ebay/AT but they are overprice in my opinion. This one isn't too bad considering a half decent spec (although no B&O) and is a facelift

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audi-S8-5...8AAOSwtQ5eXNtK

50k miles

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AUDI-S8-V...oAAOSw8gBemuQ8

As noted, spec is not important, FE is not important

History, condition and provenance are

And not being £15,995 :D

I don't mind paying for the right car, but that's almost double what it's worth

These are interesting, first one looks a better buy to me (not the most important factor, but spec is good), provenance and condition look good and price seems not far off reasonable

Wishing you luck Sarg.

Our pending house move is now confirmed for 1st September, after which I will finally have garage space to store something 'interesting' so the search for a low miler S8 (D2 or D3) steps up.

Ready to buy if the right car comes up

Shouldn't really be considering a D4 as I'd like something either close to the bottom of its depreciation curve, or on the way back up, but this seems a lot of car for the money

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-det...02007281812832

Just to update, this is still a live search, albeit paused until lockdown is over.

Let me know if you have a suitable S8

With the ever increasing list of parts 'no longer available', I think I am putting this search to bed, unless something really special comes available.

My motivation to buy is partly to see some return of investment, but I'm beginning to feel that prices of the D2 will never increase much from where they are simply because of the lack of availability of parts.

Tell me I'm wrong?

Is the same slowly happening to D3 parts?

If you want to see a return on purchase of any of these cars better buy a house :ROFL:

I can't drive a house

A house is not a hobby, not in my world anyway

:tuttut:

The D2 has become rarer, and even more classic, but so I think has the pool of buyers. There is no denying that one at 4 star classics is in stunning condition, and probably about the best you can hope for, and its not moved an inch. Even if you got it for 10K, I'm not convinced you'd get that money back easily, and that's after storing it, insuring it etc.

Values plummet over 80K, 100K, 125K and then its downhill from 150K to the scrapyard.

The D3 however is odd. Its nothing like as classic as the D2 shape, but, it does have that Lambo-linked V10 under the hood, and in the days of everything moving towards eco-weeny greeny it wouldn't surprise me if the D3 S8 doesn't become 'the' one to have with its top trump winning cube count. Engine sizes are all downhill from here for sure.

Prices have been very strong recently. I've been v10 s6 hunting now for months and even the bad ones are 8K plus.

Parts can always be sourced new, used or repaired. Prestige is shipping out new parts for Audi 80's, and cabriolets and other vintage Audis. There are cars far older than our D2's out there on the roads so i don't think part availability is a factor in used values personally.

Biggest problem the D2 has, is the gearbox. Its a 3K gamble every time you buy one. Even ones that have been refurbed, unless its been done right, its still a 3K gamble. The D3 doesn't suffer in that way. Carbon build up, swirl flaps yes, but all very transparent and fixable in contrast.

It doesn't mean I prefer the D3 to the D2 per se. The D2, with its split grill looks classic and special. The D3 with its bigger grill could be mistaken for something far more modern, especially the facelift.

But that V10, at full chat..... That's a winner hand down.....

I’m of the same opinion. If want a D2 to drive, then they’ll never be an investment. Apart form the ‘gearbox gamble’ (love that, Ian!), I wouldn’t even see a straight return on the money that I’ve spent on mine (no gearbox yet, but I’ll put up the money when required). It’s hobby that I enjoy (many thanks to this forum’s help) and a car that I love to drive, but cash under the mattress would be a better investment!

I think all parts for the D3 are still available, haven't seen one on ETKA yet that is discontinued.

D3 stuff should be available until 2023 based on 15 years after production ended.

Did it end in 2008? There are some 2010 plates around so I would have thought 2009 at the earliest?

Sorry I'm going on my out-of-date Etka :ROFL: Oops! So if it ended in 2009 / 2010 then parts should be available until 2024/2025 +++

I now have 8.3 installed. It also has a VIN function which is handy although you have to initially input the PR codes from the build sticker. If you fancy upgrading, let me know. It is working native on W10 Pro 20H2

I tried the VIN function using the VIN from the S8 I had and it shows it as a 3.0 tdi. Never checked to see what other functionality the VIN lookup offers though. Have it running on both Windows 10 Home and Windows 7 Pro.

If I type my VIN in, it also shows as a 3.0 tdi. However, there is a 'VIN Creator' with this version (3rd party) in which you enter the PR codes from the sticker and it creates a txt file in the correct folder. ETKA then greys out the irrelevant data. PM me if you want to have a go :)

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...1&d=1616183266

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...1&d=1616183266

I saw the 'VIN Creator' option but didn't check it out, as it didn't seem to make sense i.e. why create a VIN for a car? Now that you explained it, I might do it for my D2 to at least reduce the options.

Well, this has all gone way off topic.

So, back to that, my point about wanting a return of investment has been misinterpreted.

What I meant was that if I paid, say, £10k for a car, that when I come to sell it, it should return at least £10k.

The running and maintenance costs in between are the cost of the hobby, I do not expect to get any or much of that back.

And this is why, for me, lower miles is important. Maybe not the be all and end all, but an important consideration, and partly why I've ignored most of the cars that have come up for sale.

A higher miler that had been through a part rebuild, such as one that had passed through the D2 Doctor workshop, might be considered mind you.

Sorry Sarg, i did drag it off topic, apologies

As for the investment, it does seem that a good D2 or one that has been recommissioned by the Doc will still hold it's value, especially if sold on here to someone who knows it's worth.

I would also say a decent D3 also is holding it's value. The facelifts seem to be better at this as they are a bit more desirable. Anything near the 100k mark is decent I think

Well, I paid £18k for mine 12 years ago, have spent about £7k in "capital maintenance" (basically Mackies + MJ) and have been offered £10k for it a couple of times (speculatively, admittedly - I wouldn't expect to get quite that for it...).

So that works out at deprecation of ~ £1.5k per annum. which I don't think is much really, compared to what that would be for most comparable performance cars.

For me, lower miles would matter if I was going to do a lot of miles, but not if I wasn't - Herman had ~23k when I bought him, and I then did about 30k a year for each of the following 3 years (work car...), but then it dropped off, so now it's becoming "low mileage" according to some adverts anyway :ROFL:

I would say that’s very reasonable depreciation based on those figures. Far less than anything newer anyway.

Mileage is such a sticking point for used cars and I really do think it’s more of a British thing sometimes. The yanks and the continental Europeans in my experience do not seem to have the same reservations as us Brits...admittedly a bit of a broad brush statement but a a lot of my friends have similar views. For me a D2 with ~150k is ok. Less than 100k now is getting very hard to find.

The youngest D2 is nearly 20 years old now and if I was in the market for one (again) anything from 130k to 170k, or even more would be considered if the car was well taken care of. I’ve experienced cars with starship mileage that drive better than lower mileage cars and I’m sure others on here have had similar experiences.

My D3 S8 dropped by £18k in the 10 years between me buying and selling it. So only about £1.8k depreciation PA.

The thing with these cars is that, assuming they are maintained, depreciation is going to taper off once you've had them for a few years, and likely start rising.

I'd say to get one that has a good history, fewer owners the better. And unless you are going to be using it a lot, the miles are less important than a car your going to be happy owning for many years to come. So be picky about getting the spec/colour you desire.
A car can tickle you in different ways on different days. It might be the raw power today and then breezing along listening to music tomorrow or just being a great pace to be.

The car you want is the one that you'll look forward to getting into, and back at as you leave it.

Happy for you all to have your own viewpoints, but it's my money, I've a very healthy budget, and lots of time to wait for the right car, not least because we are still in lockdown.

But as mentioned a day or so back, I'm pretty much moving away from a D2 for reasons already stated. 911s and Astons have been on my web browser today, but probably need to replace the family car first, and despite my persuasions otherwise, SWMBO want a Merc EQC :eek:

Regarding the EQC, I am also frequent on a Mercedes Forum and there was a recent thread on an owner who was very unhappy with his new EQC. It gained a few faults and the UK network cannot fix it (yet). They await diagnosis from Germany and he was without a car for bout a week (poor dealership). It's now the first problem I've seen with these and being a completely new drivetrain, it may be a while until things can get fixed in a timely fashion.

I know any new car can have issues, but if they can't be fixed because the dealer network frankly doesn't know what to do then it may be a concern.

Yeah, might want to wait a bit for one of these...

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...1&d=1616347167

Started smoking while charging so the fire brigade pushed it in to a skip and drowned it :ROFL:

https://www.new-facts.eu/oberessendo...en-424264.html

And another new use for your snow foam lance!

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...1&d=1616348357

There will always be outliers that go wrong

It’s not like you never hear of Tesla’s combusting spontaneously...��

Or A8 recalls for fire risks

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/car-r...isk-39-20/amp/

If you based buying decisions on this bollox, this would be a cycling forum ��

https://live.staticflickr.com/90/232...1f99dd8b_b.jpg

I'm not surprised: it's possibly the worst large premium EV out there - including its handling, which is truly atrocious, apparently. Best avoided, I think.

We test drove one a while back, it’s handles as well as you could expect a 2.5 tonne SUV to handle, and perfectly adequately for SWMBO’s needs

With the cheap finance rates offered it makes a decent option in my opinion, and pls don’t take offence but the interior is much nicer, in our opinion, than the Tesla we tried

I would consider a Model S still, but there is nothing about as far as nearly new or new is concerned, and what there is, they are asking will high interest rates

Is the one in the skip a hybrid version ? I know a chap who's involved with the disposal of the fleet cars that come back for one of the large leasing companies,he says the 1st wave of hybrids have recently come back in( mainly rep cars ) and that approx 80% of them never had the charging lead out of the sealed plastic bag in the boot ( it's possible that some were charged at a charging point with a thered cable) ,he reckons its to easy just to fill them up at the filling station when they are hybrid

EQC is pure EV, there is no hybrid version

No surprise with the fleet cars though, they were only bought to take advantage of the tax regime at the time, a bmw 530e was less than half the co car tax as a 520d, there is no compulsion on co car drivers to actually use them as a hybrid

Nice looking jeep,what sort of mileage range will it do to a charge ,we fitted a dc charge unit for a local vw garage recently and they reckon it'll charge an average car to 80% in about 30 mins ,(the only drawback with it is it was 7k to buy the charge unit )