S8 D3 v10 engine
 

Hello everyone just to keep you updated about my beautiful s8 d3...I sold it while ago and I just wanted to say whoever owned this car before... hat's off to you buddy for looking after the engine👍👍👍 (check pictures please)
Glad I sold it
Never again, can't trust anyone, goodbye

Was it a forum member's car?

Yes it was

That's quite bad, in the last 30 years only ones I have seen with similar buildup are the ones that either had been severely overheated for prolonged period of time (100 miles without coolant ) or where the last record of oil change is 60 50k miles ago.

I remember it now and I remember both of the previous owners. If I remember, it even had the manifold replaced. How could this happen? No/low coolant or lack of oil changes?

Olive oil for its last change!?

I've only seen something that bad once before, it was a 8 year old car on it's original oil filter - had never been changed!?

I'm guessing that wasn't the case here :Confused:

Well, isn't that a nice post to read on a Saturday morning!

I suspect that IT will either delete my response to it or delete the entire thread, but if you insist on character assassination, at least have the b*lls to call me out by name.

For those unaware of it, I was the previous owner of the car and was the person who sold it to you. I owned the car for roughly 18 months and only put 5,000 miles on it (and have the spreadsheet to prove it).

Everything that I did to the car was documented here on the forum, as well as a couple of retrofits that weren't documented, including all the negative stuff that happened with the car whilst in my possession.

When I sold you the car, it included a boot full of extra parts and spares for the car. I also specifically asked you for 'one' condition of sale, and that was that should you at any time decide to sell the car, that you would offer it to me first before listing it for sale. I never wanted to sell the car, but with no income and it just sitting around literally for months not being used, it had to go. At no point did you ever contact me saying you were selling it.

Before you picked up the car, I went out of my way to find the easiest and most convenient way for you to get here (checking planes, trains, automobiles, boats and buses), including (finally) bus numbers, where to get them and where to get off. Also, since your purchase, I've gone out of my way to save you money through unnecessary mechanic fees, by contacting the previous owner to me to find out about previous work they had done. One instance is where you told me you were for getting the intake manifold removed in order to check if the flaps inside had been removed. That is something like a 2 hour job just to remove, plus the same to refit, plus any gaskets required. Instead, I contacted the previous owner who had paid the £2,500 for a new one, and was able to confirm with him that the flaps had not been removed (not necessary since it was a new manifold, and good for another 100,000 miles).

Finally, regarding your purchase and subsequent sale of your 'beautiful S8', and one that anyone reading this should be made clearly aware of. You purchased the car for £9,500, which I still consider cheap for the spec of the car. You sold the car for £12,000, because yes, I spotted two ads you had up for it, one on eBay (224007889548) and the other on Pistonheads (both with your new S8CEU plate), but since you never bothered to contact me to say you were selling it, I didn't see the point in contacting you.

One last comment, and something pertaining to the 'looking after the engine' comment. There are a number of people on the NIAOC group who can attest to what the engine is capable of, but since you bought a cheap car with a 'part' service history expecting a FASH, I'm not sure anything would be good enough for you... and you still made money out of it.

Apologies to Ian (as moderator) and to everyone else on the forum about this 'washing my dirty linen in public', but I resent the accusations made about me, and 'taking it offline' doesn't apply as he obvious doesn't want to hear from me. I'll abide by your decision Ian, whatever you decide.

EDIT: It turns out he also unfriended me on Facebook.

I am stunned how you were mistreated, steamship.
And I believe you are absolutely within your rights to set the record straight. If that guy chose to shun you, it is his loss.
Sad that he didn't honor the request and gave you the option to buy it back.
I know how it feels to have to let a car go in dire circumstances, even if you never wanted to

That mess in the engine happened long before you ever saw the car. That's a decade of cheap or no oil changes by a long-previous owner so to blame you for it Sean is, in my opinion, disingenuous in the extreme.

I wonder if the new owner got to see those pictures before they paid 12K for it...?

I remember it all now, even checked the old advert.

Sean, there's no need to aplogise for your post, you were right to post it and set the record straight. The reason I asked if it was a member's car was because it did look familiar and prior to you buying it, I was very tempted myself.

As MJ said, those pictures are not 5000 miles worth of damage, it would take much more than that. Steamship is also not the person to pull the wool over your eyes either.

I can understand the OP was not impressed when they saw the condition of the oil etc but it goes back further than the previous owner.

Sean should have been contacted and it kept offline as I know the conversation could easily of been resolved off the forum. The buy back condition would leave me really annoyed (in Sean's case) as it was a condition of the sale and also would have been an easy way to sell the car back but not for the price the seller wanted.

What an unattractive and disingenuous OP post
 

EDIT: It turns out he also unfriended me on Facebook.

No great loss, I suspect. In all of my lurking (and activity on these forums), you appear to be a thorough and decent person. I can vouch for the other comments about lack of care with regards to oil changes. I had to have my rocker cover gaskets replaced recently [see attached] and the garage commented on how clean the engine was, very little journal wear for a 176,000 mile car. I have always used good quality oil on a regular basis, as did the previous owner. Background: my car was at some point registered as an embassy car so I would suspect main stealer maintenance schedules.

All of the forum posts that I've seen from Steamship are indicative of someone who takes care of things. I'm glad others on the forums have backed you up, and for good reason. It's very pernickety of someone to write that on a forum post with the statement 'can't trust anyone, goodbye'.

JG shrugs his shoulders.

Sean,
You still have my full and unconditional support.

While there are powers greater than me. The moderators note that with a post rate of over 100 to 1, Sean's credibility rating is well over the limit to get our support.

I had thought about this soon after initially posting and really could not be ars*d adding it to my post, as the whole thing has f**ked me off, big time.

To everyone that has posted, thank you for the comments.

This seems to be true, but not in the way perhaps it was intended.


Like you forgot to mention in the advert scraping out a bucket full of gunk from the rockers :ROFL: But you clearly remembered it later on here :Confused:

Sounds like Steamship sold the car in good faith, having looked after it during his ownership. I am pretty sure that the same can not be said of poorman'sA8.

Sean, sadly you have had the misfortune of your car being purchased by one of those individuals who are never going to be happy.
From the off they were putting up questionable posts. Finally they have, with abundant lack of honour, shown what type of person they are.
I can understand you being upset. It is unpleasant being the target of an immature rant, but that is all it is. Immature, plus childish and pathetic.
I value you as a fellow member and a friend. And look forward to happier times when we can again all get together.

On a lighter note, I hope the new owner surfaces here, but if he sees those pictures he might just have a legally enforceable issue with the previous owner

Very poor etiquette that mind, what a drama queen :tuttut:

My manifold failed after a few months of ownership but not for one moment did I think of blaming IT or Roberto for my misfortune. At the end of the day, it's a car with many moving parts that require regular maintenance and somewhere down the line of ownership someone didn't ensure it happened, and it certainly wasn't Sean. :mad:

Imagine trying to slander someone despite making a tidy profit from the short ownership? No, me neither :mad:

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And to lighten our days in a difficult thread, I offer a useful tool to our moderators:

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...7&d=1592818084

:D+++

So, for my two penneth here.

I saw this thread over the weekend, but sadly it was beyond the initial post and into some comments already. Had it had been the initial post on its own, I would have squashed it as having no value.

But, once seen and commented upon, the value was to allow a counter post from the previous owner(s) to defend the rather pointless outrage that the new owner felt he had to share, clearly after he had disposed of it to some one else.

I would have said the post wasn't necessarily directed at Sean, until Sean confirmed he had unfriended him.

It remains my personal opinion that Sean had the car for a relatively short time, and certainly a limited mileage, so seems likely the issues arose much earlier in its lifespan.

This thread doesn't affect the high regard I have in Sean, any cars he may sell in the future or his standing on this forum.

I'm happy to leave, or remove this thread, entirely at Seans discretion +++

Just to add, my initial posts were simply to find out who's car it was previously. It's clear Sean is a straight up guy. He even helped me with an issue I had via PM without me approaching him, what a gent.

I would not hesitate to buy a car from him.

Ian, I'm in two minds what to suggest, but I'd rather explain my thinking first.

Firstly though, I'd counter that the post wasn't directed specifically at me, given that the OP never once tried contacting me across multiple platforms (phone, TXT, email, forum or Facebook) about the issue. Likewise, the likelihood of previous owners of the car also being members of this particular forum are slim (yes, N11LS_J was a member on here, but his last post was in February 2018 after I picked the car up), so in all probability, it was directed at me.

Options
1. Simply delete the thread, irrespective of the number of replies - Pro: original post served 'no value' as you say, and OP never tried contacting me / Con:it's effectively sweeping the potential problem for the new owner 'under the carpet' should they ever find this forum and the OP never told them about it.

2. Lock the thread, 'warts and all' - Pro:Again, if the new owner finds the forum, then they will be made aware of the issue raised by the OP, but given that the manifold gaskets were replaced (as stated in the ad), the new owner might assume that there is no work needing done under them / Con:it besmirches (had to look that word up to make it sound good!) my name, but unfortunately it's something I'm used to (but that's another more painful story) for trying to be helpful.

There are certain pros and cons against each option, but given my nature of trying to be a 'good sod', I would rather see the thread locked. I would rather have the new owner find this thread and then get the engine cleaned, rather than have them drive the car thinking it was fine, and then be faced with a catastrophic failure.

That's my suggestion Ian. However, as moderator, I leave the final decision in your hands.

Thread locked as requested.