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tc4332 9th March 2022 10:55 AM

Price of Czar Putin to my pocket
 
We can blame Pudding Putin for the increase in fuel prices but if we only get 3% of our fuel from Russia why did Shell charge me £184 per litre last night.
Stated in the commons just now Shell had £15 Billion profit last year, need I say more.
Just a disgruntled Old Fogey from Wigan who served a few years for my country now paying through the nose for it.
End of political rant.
Apologies for spouting off in the wrong place, at least I woke up this morning breathing.

MikkiJayne 9th March 2022 11:39 AM

It is price gouging in the extreme, using the invasion as an excuse to rip people off.

On Sunday I saw the following prices for diesel:

Shell Crediton - 1.69
Tesco Crediton (literally next door) - 1.55
Texaco Penryn lower - 1.56
Texaco Penryn upper (1 mile away) - 1.77!
A30 Temple Services - 1.46

Its total BS, and yet people are still paying the higher prices. Shell is as busy as normal. I followed a van who drove past Penryn lower and pulled in to Penryn upper instead https://www.corradov8.com/pics/screwy.gif

David's8 9th March 2022 01:11 PM

Yes, its amazing how the instant the price of crude goes up, the price of the stock already refined and in the garage forecourt tanks goes up. :mad:

tintin 9th March 2022 02:13 PM

Franchise profiteering?
 
Unless I'm mistaken, a number of Shell stations are franchises, so are often owned and managed by "independent businessmen" who are pretty much invisible when it comes to taking the flak/being accountable for excessive prices, so can rip off drivers at will...

In my view, the best option - which I've done for years anyway, to be honest - is to buy from Tesco: they're usual cheaper by some margin (more so at the moment...), and their "price premium" for high RON fuel has always been smaller than Shell's.

steamship 9th March 2022 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MikkiJayne (Post 168985)
It is price gouging in the extreme, using the invasion as an excuse to rip people off.

Exactly. People making billions at the detriment to everyone else. Reminds me of all the PPE contracts.

The West impose sanctions on Russia, so they don't get their Starbucks and McDonalds. Meanwhile, the cost of living for people in the West go stratospheric!

Have you seen the cost of home heating oil? Had to buy recently as run out. Cost then was £539 for 900 litres. Exactly three weeks later and it's now £1,079. :mad:

Thinking of putting a few 20 litre tubs on eBay. :rolleyes:

strummagnet 9th March 2022 03:05 PM

As I see it almost a third of non supermarket stations are independent or franchise under BP, Shell etc. Yes they can price at will but still need to be seen as competitive as the corporate stations, though catchment area can play a part as well.:D That being said the margin between wholesale and forecourt prices is usually very little, some 3-5p per ltr. Each forecourt being it's own cost centre needs to make a profit and most of this comes from the sandwiches and sweets we love to nibble when filling up.

The revenue from what is in the tanks needs to cover the next wholesale delivery. Consider an unleaded tank serving a group of pumps holds approx 22000 ltrs. Change in wholesale costs is potentially going to wipe out any margin the forecourt is currently generating. The more you are going to need to replenish the greater the additional cost and the greater pressure on margin, therefore the desire is to cover costs from what you have left. Hence variations seen from the 'same' branded fuel stations.

I think in these times with the oxygen thief Putin up to his antics most people are pragmatic about costs going up, for now.

That all being said there are always independents taking advantage. War is good for business... :(

Sit down, Waldo 9th March 2022 03:48 PM

Just passed local Esso where we normally fill up. Unleaded 166.9, diesel 172.9. Prices for the higher quality versions aren't advertised until you pull up to the pump, typically another 10-12p per litre. That puts a tank for the D2 in the £160 region & works out close to 40p a mile. :mad:

MikkiJayne 9th March 2022 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by steamship (Post 168988)
Have you seen the cost of home heating oil? Had to buy recently as run out. Cost then was £539 for 900 litres. Exactly three weeks later and it's now £1,079. :mad:

Luckily I ordered the day before the invasion :rolleyes:

The_Laird 9th March 2022 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MikkiJayne (Post 168991)
Luckily I ordered the day before the invasion :rolleyes:

Don’t you mean ‘special military operation’ :-(

Ronin 9th March 2022 05:08 PM

When I took a fuel card from my employer a few months ago i really dreaded the £200 a month cost in tax... As I was contributing around £25 of my own money per tank at 14p per mile... Now it would be like £30-35 per tank and I fill up 4 times a week... Crazy times.

roberto 9th March 2022 07:02 PM

you are forgetting something

the motorist is there to be had , and have us they will

yes its crap

but at least we have no bombs and our children aren't being killed

thats worth £5 a litre

tonupkid 9th March 2022 07:55 PM

It's too easy to jump in with the old 'big business are ripping us off' gripe. Of course they are. They like any sensible business will get the maximum they can for their product. And I'm betting that you do the same.
Do you tell your boss "noooo I don't need more money for my input here. Pay me less."
Answering Rays point about why cancelling supplies, when we only source about 3% from the Rusky Bear, can cause prices to increase so dramatically here.
Well, we source our oil in the same market as the rest of the world, and the rest of the world are also looking to replace the oil they formerly get from Pudding Putin. So along with the increased demand as countries top up reserves (there is a war on or whateveryoucallit), plus replacing what they can't get from the Rampaging Czar. Everyone is chasing more oil from a smaller pool.

With less supply and more demand, which way do you thing prices will go.

Things could really be much worse. I've seen the Murdering Dictator waving his nuclear missile (what a nice man). Lets just accept that this is not a case of the normal corporate greed, but its the result of war or whateveryercalling it.

LOL saw a picture of the insane crowds in a Russian Ikea on the day before it closed. Didn't look any different to an ordinary day at my local Ikea.

Regulus 10th March 2022 06:59 PM

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Have you seen the cost of home heating oil? Had to buy recently as run out. Cost then was £539 for 900 litres. Exactly three weeks later and it's now £1,079. :mad:

It's very expensive here in Sweden as well. Never seen it this high.
I bought 1500 litres for 19138 SEK (12750 SEK/m3) back early October.
Today it costs 18890 kr/m3. (£1473) Almost 50% higher. :mad:

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Another massive price bump :eek2:

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...1&d=1646949338

HPsauce 11th March 2022 12:08 PM

Just put £99 of Momentum in the S8 (still not full obviously but that's the limit) at £168.9p/litre.
First drive ANYWHERE in ages, just reminded me what a joy it is to be in a D2. :love:

I was taking SWMBO to the hairdressers, an activity a mere male doesn't EVER ask the price of...... :tuttut:

Sit down, Waldo 14th March 2022 06:28 AM

Esso premium diesel 185.9 yesterday.

sarg 14th March 2022 10:43 AM

Speaking to my brother yesterday, prices in France:

Per litre:
Regular diesel 2.266 euros
Premium diesel 2.326 euros
Regular unleaded 2.042 euros
Premium unleaded 2.111 euros

Sit down, Waldo 21st March 2022 02:09 PM

Prices still creeping up. Esso Supreme + diesel 188.9p today, so 54.43 litres has just cost £102.82. Ouch.

roberto 21st March 2022 07:35 PM

i paid £1.55p

Zip 21st March 2022 09:59 PM

About 2 weeks ago, I got chatting to a guy at my local Shell garage. His sister had sent him a photo of a fuel price sign outside a station in deepest Kent.

£2.06 for 95RON…..

Z

Sit down, Waldo 19th June 2022 08:36 PM

Esso Supreme + diesel 210.9p...that's up 12p per litre in a week.

HPsauce 19th June 2022 08:53 PM

Momentum was £195.9 a litre yesterday in Crediton.
Obviously with a 90-litre S8 tank "Pay at pump, limit £99" wasn't an option..... :rolleyes:

Ronin 19th June 2022 09:24 PM

It's a great time to have a company fuel card I must admit...

tintin 19th June 2022 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronin (Post 170089)
It's a great time to have a company fuel card I must admit...

Or a nearly 7 year old Tesla +++

strummagnet 20th June 2022 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by HPsauce (Post 170085)
Momentum was £195.9 a litre yesterday in Crediton.
Obviously with a 90-litre S8 tank "Pay at pump, limit £99" wasn't an option..... :rolleyes:

It was 194.9 on Sunday HP. Saw that nice shiny car and thought you could afford an additional bump in price. :)

steamship 20th June 2022 08:54 AM

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Esso Supreme + diesel 210.9p...that's up 12p per litre in a week.

Bog standard Tesco petrol went up 9p last week over here (174.9p). Getting expensive to just cut the grass now.

Came across an interesting site that lists global fuel prices. Here's a screenshot of petrol prices, and I've highlighted the UK... if you can find it. The site is at:

https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/gasoline_prices/

HPsauce 20th June 2022 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by strummagnet (Post 170099)
It was 194.9 on Sunday HP.

Intriguing, I just checked the receipt, definitely 195.9 on Saturday. :Confused:

homer simpson 20th June 2022 05:59 PM

I put some fuel in at Costco last week, premium petrol was £1.86/L which is not bad considering most premium fuels are around the £2 mark, still an absolute rip off though.

Costco have raised their £99 limit to £120 although with just over 1/4 tank it still didn't fill it up :mad:

tc4332 20th June 2022 08:12 PM

Cost me £136 to top up mine on Friday.

paulrstaylor 21st June 2022 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by homer simpson (Post 170112)
I put some fuel in at Costco last week, premium petrol was £1.86/L which is not bad considering most premium fuels are around the £2 mark, still an absolute rip off though.

Costco have raised their £99 limit to £120 although with just over 1/4 tank it still didn't fill it up :mad:

I have taken two two transactions by default at Costco now 🥴

roberto 23rd June 2022 11:39 AM

i paid £1.55 for diesel just as it started to rise and took a gamble and fetched 350 litres..

still got 200 litres left :)

MikkiJayne 23rd June 2022 12:42 PM

I did that with heating oil back in 2020 when lockdown hit. Paid 20p a litre for 2000 litres, and only ran out last winter :ROFL: Almost wish I'd bought more, but it was beginning to go off.

Conan_the_Librarian 25th June 2022 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MikkiJayne (Post 170151)
Almost wish I'd bought more, but it was beginning to go off.

Was it starting to taste bad and smell funny? :ROFL:

steamship 25th June 2022 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MikkiJayne (Post 170151)
I did that with heating oil back in 2020 when lockdown hit. Paid 20p a litre for 2000 litres, and only ran out last winter :ROFL: Almost wish I'd bought more, but it was beginning to go off.

Wow. I paid 60p a litre for 900 litres back in the first half of February (2022). Three weeks later it was £1.20 a litre. 'Cheapest' it ever dropped to after that was 90p a litre and it's currently at £1.02... and rising.

At least I can still afford to run the car on LPG at 69.9p a litre.

ainarssems 25th June 2022 03:38 PM

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