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A8 Doc 20th November 2010 06:38 PM

Fitting AMI Interface
 
You will require an AMI interface out of an A4/A6/A8 - Check part number first, most start with 4E0 which is perfect.

You will need:

4D0 051 530 - Release Tools to remove CD Changer (Approx £5)
4F0 051 510 K - iPod Cable to fit AMI (Approx £20)
4F0 051 592 A - Wiring Harness for Power and Retrofit Kit - (Approx £30)

You will not need the last one if you simply replace the CD changer. I wanted both :) So that is the official audi dealer retrofit kit number. Release tools make it easy.

Basically drop glovebox, remove the CD Changer first, then fit the wiring harness to split the MOST bus and power for the AMI most, and fit both.

You will require the latest MMI software installed. Let me know if you need a copy. If the AMI is new it will require coding, if not it should work immediately :D

Done :D

A8L Chick 19th January 2011 03:28 PM

This sounds all too easy :D

Can anyone explain what the hell MOST stands for :p

And, I am retrofitting this into the black D3 tomorrow hopefully, please can someone show me how the "MOST" connection should be to enable both CD & AMI to work instead of loosing the CD changer.

Unless this is simply plug and play of course? I get the impression I need to connect wires to wires though???

Just a bit of info on the AMI units for the A8... there are only 12 left in stock at Audi HQ, when they are sold they are not making anymore... so if anyone wants to retrofit this into their car they need to do it now +++

Conan_the_Librarian 19th January 2011 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by A8L Chick (Post 17416)

Unless this is simply plug and play of course? I get the impression I need to connect wires to wires though???


Just use a granny knot. :D

A8L Chick 19th January 2011 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Conan_the_Librarian (Post 17418)
Just use a granny knot. :D

Oi cheeky :p

I have no problem with connecting wires etc but I would need to know which ones :D

PsYcHe 19th January 2011 05:36 PM

MOST stands for something like Media Oriented System Transport. It's a fibre-loop that goes round the car components.

Thankfully, you don't have to splice any fibres, but you do need to take at least one of the connectors apart behind the CD changer. Seriously, if you are happy to just put all your CDs on the AMI as MP3 on a hard drive, or iPod then it's a bazillion times easier to fit.

The loom should come with all the instructions on which connectors to take apart and stuff.

A8L Chick 19th January 2011 06:03 PM

Aah I see, thanks hun-thats easy peezy then hopefully. :)

I will let you know how I get on. +++

Would anyone be able to give me a step by step for the VCDS? I need to open a module or something dont I??? (this is the bit I have no idea on) :p

IT 19th January 2011 07:30 PM

Mine was plug and play, no vagcom work... Connected the leccy, looped through the fiber and voila, the CD changer and AMI both work fine now...

PsYcHe is right though, if you dont have the pukka 'upgrade kit' which comes with the fiber Y connectors and wiring then its far, far easier to remove the Cd changer and put the AMI in its place..

It does rely on a later version of the MMI though, but you'll have that no doubt in yours I would think.... +++

PsYcHe 19th January 2011 09:08 PM

It needs to be something like 3360 or similar to support AMI.

And yes, you may need to turn on media player 1 or 2 in VCDS. it's the main module long coding if I remember rightly (module 07?).

A8L Chick 19th January 2011 11:02 PM

Brilliant-thanks everyone. I should be fine :)

I have latest software so all fine there +++

Fingers crossed for tomorrow.

A8 Doc 20th January 2011 10:17 AM

Yep dead easy as agreed. Unplug one plug in other. I have a spare power splitter if you need one.

Get stuck gimme a bell. If you remove the CD Changer keep it.

limoncello 20th January 2011 08:40 PM

also if you swap the ami for the cd - you dont need to drop the glove box. whole thing took me less than 10 minutes

tonupkid 20th January 2011 10:20 PM

I need an AMI for mine, but they're so flipping expensive :(

Looking forward to hearing how you get on with installing yours A8L Chick. Good luck with it

A8L Chick 21st January 2011 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by tonupkid (Post 17470)
I need an AMI for mine, but they're so flipping expensive :(

Looking forward to hearing how you get on with installing yours A8L Chick. Good luck with it

Well I would order one sooner rather than later-confirmed with Audi today they only have 12 left...once they are gone they are gone +++

Fitting was a piece of ****! Honestly the easiest thing I have done on these A8's by far ;)

I have both the CD player connected & the AMI. No VCDS needed, worked immediately :cool:

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Originally Posted by limoncello (Post 17467)
also if you swap the ami for the cd - you dont need to drop the glove box. whole thing took me less than 10 minutes

As above, I have both fitted...I didn't drop the glovebox either..you don't need to (I don't know why they tell you to???)

Took 10mins from unpacking to listening :rockin:

I will post current part numbers later ;)

Architex_mA8tey 21st January 2011 11:11 AM

Does this mean that brides can plug in their iPoddy now and play soothing calming music before the big event?? :D

PsYcHe 21st January 2011 11:21 AM

I'm guessing you've got the ipod interface.. but there's a couple of others too

I've got the USB connection with a hard drive in there, but you can also get a bluetooth connection to stream from phones too.

A8L Chick 21st January 2011 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Architex_mA8tey (Post 17481)
Does this mean that brides can plug in their iPoddy now and play soothing calming music before the big event?? :D

Now that would depend on the mood I am in ;)

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Originally Posted by PsYcHe (Post 17482)
I'm guessing you've got the ipod interface.. but there's a couple of others too

I've got the USB connection with a hard drive in there, but you can also get a bluetooth connection to stream from phones too.

Yeah its being used for an ipod, I have the USB connection and a hard drive (out of silver one) but I use the ipod in that too :D

Bluetooth parts are a bit too highly priced for my liking. iphone works in the AMI too but I use BB for business, thats always connected to the handsfree via bluetooth anyway +++

Glync 15th March 2011 05:13 PM

I must say I do fancy this AMI unit, I miss having the ipod connected for my sounds!

Would I need the software updating on mine? 2007 car.
Whats the prices for the kit?
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limoncello 15th March 2011 08:00 PM

Got mine on ebay, if i remember rightly the prices were

AMI unit - 220

Audi 250gb hard disk - 70

Ipod lead and Hdd lead - 15

its well worth doing, the qualitys so good. obviously you dont need the hdd and lead if you want to use your ipod

I cant remember what software you need, mine got upgraded to 5540 or something when i put the Phone system in.

most write ups say you need to do a vagcom coding if you want to leave your cd in as well.

PsYcHe 15th March 2011 09:14 PM

if your MMI is above 3320 (or around that), then you're good to go, but the 5570 upgrade is nice too.

A8L Chick 16th March 2011 02:16 PM

I kept my 6 disk changer and installed AMI next to it (replacing the small compartment cubby hole) and I didn't need to use VCDS. Worked from the off-but I do have latest software version.

My whole setup was £200 from Audi, but I do get a hefty discount. I think it's closer to £300 normally direct from audi.

Bex

Glync 19th March 2011 04:35 PM

Thanks for the info on this everyone +++
I have had a nosey on the system before trying to upgrade anything and would appreciate advice on how I fine what version is installed
The Sat Nav was easy popped the disk and its the 2007 disc part number T1000-11354

When I went into the MMI system section and pressed version.
It lists a stack of numbers what am looking for please :Confused:
I can list them here if its of any use?
Thanks

tonupkid 19th March 2011 05:44 PM

I've been quoted over £500 at Audi!!!!! The B4stards:mad:

PsYcHe 19th March 2011 05:58 PM

Glyn,

You're looking for the first line.. will say something like 31.2.0 or similar.

tonup - There's loads on ebay, or give craigyb a shout.

A8L Chick 19th March 2011 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonupkid (Post 19711)
I've been quoted over £500 at Audi!!!!! The B4stards:mad:

I can always try and get it for you from my local Audi dealer. They look after me pretty well.

I am a little funny about buying off fleabay for stuff like this :eek3:

Glync 19th March 2011 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PsYcHe (Post 19712)
Glyn,

You're looking for the first line.. will say something like 31.2.0 or similar.

tonup - There's loads on ebay, or give craigyb a shout.

Cheers PsYcHe
The first line reads SW: D3 -HU28.6.00620
Do I need to get this udated before trying to get AMI fitted
Sorry to be thick but I hate making costly mistakes
Cheers
Glyn

PsYcHe 19th March 2011 06:49 PM

Yup.. you need an update. You're on 2860, AMI needs something like 3320, but you can go straight to 5570 with this version, you just need the update CDs (5 quid ish at the dealer, or various *ahem* internet repositories), possibly need the update menu turned on in VCDS too though.

You'll also get the 3D satnav view and a pile of updates to the Bose, etc to improve sound.

Glync 19th March 2011 07:18 PM

Cheers +++
Will begin a search failing that down to the stealers
:(
Although it begs the question why they dont do this as a routine when the damn car was serviced !

A8L Chick 19th March 2011 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glync (Post 19717)
Cheers +++
Will begin a search failing that down to the stealers
:(
Although it begs the question why they dont do this as a routine when the damn car was serviced !

Because it takes forever :ROFL:

Remember when I had mine done - I could have fallen asleep! Because you have to update each version one disk at a time so you dont screw the MMI up, each disk takes a while, and you cant press anything in the car whilst the updates are in progress, too much to go wrong I guess.

I think they will do it-at a cost of course :rolleyes:

Architex_mA8tey 19th March 2011 08:22 PM

I've think I might be able to locate a copy of 5570 if you pm me ahemmm :D

tonupkid 20th March 2011 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by A8L Chick (Post 19714)
I can always try and get it for you from my local Audi dealer. They look after me pretty well.

I am a little funny about buying off fleabay for stuff like this :eek3:

That's a very kind offer, can I take you up on it please. If you want to reach me I'm in the office Mon-Fri from about 10.30am on 01543 473 344, or PM of course. Just let me know what you need from my end.

I've bunged a pict off my MMI with version details, in case you need it

PsYcHe 20th March 2011 03:30 PM

Ooh.. you're only on 3450.. You may want to look at the 5570 upgrade. AMI should work OK on that version though.

Glync 20th March 2011 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Architex_mA8tey (Post 19720)
I've think I might be able to locate a copy of 5570 if you pm me ahemmm :D

PM should be with you
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tonupkid 20th March 2011 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PsYcHe (Post 19746)
Ooh.. you're only on 3450.. You may want to look at the 5570 upgrade. AMI should work OK on that version though.

Yep! I need to do something as at the moment the bluetooth works fine for making/taking calls, but I have no phone book access for my Android (Gingerbread). Ans I live in hope of being able to stream my music from the phone too :rolleyes: Yes I know, we all want the world.

f you're up for it ;) I will donate to the charity of your choice

A8L Chick 21st March 2011 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by tonupkid (Post 19771)
Yep! I need to do something as at the moment the bluetooth works fine for making/taking calls, but I have no phone book access for my Android (Gingerbread). Ans I live in hope of being able to stream my music from the phone too :rolleyes: Yes I know, we all want the world.

f you're up for it ;) I will donate to the charity of your choice

Not sure-but I know there is a recall on alot of D3's for the telephone. Mine is an 07 A8, pretty sure there are no differences between the modules on the A/S8's? If your recall hasn't been done (which can take a few hours btw) might be worth getting her down there. (I had it done-but I think it's just a part of the above upgrades and I already had the 2010 version) I may be wrong though..? Worth an ask +++

PM me your VIN number to make sure I get the right parts for you hun. I will let you know price/availability of Audi (when I bought mine they only had 12 left & they are no longer making them/discontinued)

Bex (P.S do you want the lead so you dont have to loose the CD player)

A8L Chick 21st March 2011 03:49 PM

I have priced up the bits you need with Audi-and I can get them for £245 including VAT (petty sure thats the right price-I am within a £10 threshold...but I know it's less than £250-I have a brain like a sive)

Let me know what you want to do +++ Only extra you'll have to sort out is potage from me to you ;)

tonupkid 21st March 2011 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by A8L Chick (Post 19800)
I have priced up the bits you need with Audi-and I can get them for £245 including VAT (petty sure thats the right price-I am within a £10 threshold...but I know it's less than £250-I have a brain like a sive)

Let me know what you want to do +++ Only extra you'll have to sort out is potage from me to you ;)

I've PM'd you

Diablo 27th March 2011 09:21 PM

Will this work on a facelift car?
 
Gents,

A question from an uninitiated simpleton: Will this set-up work on a 2005 (facelift) A8? :Confused:

Many thanks.

limoncello 28th March 2011 07:04 AM

works on mine

Godders 28th March 2011 10:24 AM

I've ordered my parts to do the retrofit through TPS after getting the part numbers from my friendly dealer :

The AMI kit is : 4E0 057 785 F - N/Stk A4E0 057 785 D
The cable kit is : 4F0 051 592 A - N/Stk AMICABLESET

The dealer total for this lot is £231.00 including the dreaded, they quoted £399 including fitting and any necessary MMI update. There is a small discount through TPS (down to £212). The guy in the dealer told me the prices have tumbled for these recently. TPS told me there was 'plenty of central stock' when he checked availability.

My MMI is on an old version 2120 so I have also ordered the update CDs (Part # - 4L0 998 961). They are listed as a repair kit on ETKA and have a list price of just over £5. There is somebody on eBay punting these out for over £20 including PnP !

Is there any interest in me doing a write up on the update / install ?, if so I'll knock one together.

Glync 28th March 2011 10:41 AM

Hi Godders
I'd be interested in how you do this as I would like to add the AMI so if you can take a few pictures and add some notes ...much appreciated.

Forgive me being thick but who/what are TPS mate?
Also I have seen a few of the AMI parts listed on fleabay etc. and the final number appears to be different on a few does this make a difference as the unit looks the same and is listed as suitable for the D3 A8?

Cheers
Glyn


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