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Adrian E 8th January 2011 09:19 AM

lower door mouldings?
 
Hi folks

How are the black plastic lower door mouldings held on to the car?

I noticed this morning that the one on the front passenger side is hanging only by the outer edges and can be pulled away in the middle.

I rang the local stealer and they claim you need the whole moulding at £63.44 but then noticed there are some female clips for a more reasonable £1.12 but his diagram didn't detail either how many were needed, or whether these clips fit to the body and the male part is on the moulding or not....

I'm crap with trim - I usually either break it getting it off, or apply force in the wrong place/direction (usually a combination of the 2!) so an idiots guide to how they're held on/got off/put back would be great.

Interestingly they appear to list different part numbers for black or ones to be painted body coloured. Presumably some came body coloured?

Cheers

Adrian

PsYcHe 8th January 2011 09:26 AM

There's a black strip goes along the bottom of the inside of the door. You can slide that off and you'll see the screws for the outer moulding.

May just be that the screw has worked loose. Or it's been pulled as I think they clip on too from memory.

Adrian E 8th January 2011 11:33 AM

Ah OK, so looking at the bottom of the door with it open, I should be able to slide something towards the door opening and see screws?

That makes a bit more sense - anyone got or know of somewhere with pics online to show trim removal?

PsYcHe 8th January 2011 01:39 PM

No pics, but it's really simple :).. There's a black plastic bar at the bottom of the inside of the door, and you slide it off.

Adrian E 12th January 2011 07:39 PM

OK - finally got a chance to have a go at this this evening

Managed to get the black trim slid off on the inside and uncovered 2 large headed screws - 1 at each end.

Undid those and the plastic part of the trim came off on the outside very easily.

I can now see why the trim was hanging off - by the looks of it the clips where the screws come through are covered in shoe glue to hold the trim in place!

The rubber weather strip is still attached to the car, but I'm not sure if that's part of the metal bit its attached to and whether that should simply pull off with a bit of brute force, or if there's a more subtle way to remove it?

I can see what appears to be some pale blue plastic at regular intervals that may once have been plastic trim clips, but they are all rather uniform looking so maybe not?

I'm wondering if the plastic bits covered in glue are expanding retainers, which are the things I can get from the dealer for a couple of quid? Just not sure how the trim should be retained along its length......

Adrian

PsYcHe 12th January 2011 08:46 PM

The trim is on with the clips, then retained properly with the screws.. Pretty sure mine had at least 3 screws in it.

Adrian E 12th January 2011 10:21 PM

I can't see any other holes from the inside.....

Adrian E 13th January 2011 03:14 PM

Just an update - went to look at the clips the local dealer ordered in for me - they're the blue ones I can see part of hiding behind the remains of the trim still attached to the car :(

Have now had to order a complete new trim (about 70 quid) which does, thankfully, at least come with the half dozen trim clips.

It looks like the remains of the outer trim have been stuck back on rather poorly in the past, so what I've removed is only the very outer layer of the trim - I still have to remove the rest, which I am told slides across like the inner trim cover to get it off the clips.

I'm not going to remove the rest till Saturday as (a) I'll have the new one to compare to by then (b) the weather strip is still sealing the door bottom so it's better off where it is, even though it looks a mess.....

Conan_the_Librarian 13th January 2011 03:57 PM

useful thread. added to Sticky; Thank you Adrian.

billblank 6th June 2011 10:43 PM

hmm, subtley different take on this. My bottom door trim appears to be one piece. Removal required the extraction of two bungs either end of the inside of the door. removal of two little screws revealed and slide the whole exterior trim away from the hinge end and then off. Clips secure to trim then clips (with trim attached) slide over corresponding little posts on door panel.

Adrian E 7th June 2011 08:42 AM

Yeah, that's how it should be - mine had been bodged in the past with a glue gun!

Never took pics in the end of this, because the day after buying the trim my mirrors got stolen so the swapping of the trim got done by the bodyshop while they had it in to repair....:(

Cornershop 12th March 2015 05:53 PM

Digging up an old thread...

I need the driver and passenger front door lower mouldings - can anyone confirm the part numbers I need are:

4D0 854 939 A 3FZ
4D0 854 940 A 3FZ

Dropped off the car at the garage for the cambelt - whilst there got him to provide a quote, both of these are 164 + vat each :rolleyes:

The_Laird 12th March 2015 06:21 PM

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Cornershop 12th March 2015 06:24 PM

I will if those prices are correct!

Adrian E 12th March 2015 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cornershop (Post 90682)
Digging up an old thread...

I need the driver and passenger front door lower mouldings - can anyone confirm the part numbers I need are:

4D0 854 939 A 3FZ
4D0 854 940 A 3FZ

Dropped off the car at the garage for the cambelt - whilst there got him to provide a quote, both of these are 164 + vat each :rolleyes:

Holy ****! I just checked back through my invoices and in January 2011 the 939A one cost me £52.87+vat! That was brand new, with no discount, from Audi dealer :o

That's an insane price increase :mad: How on earth can they believe a 3 fold increase is justified?!

Goes off for 2 minutes to check something and I have good news :D

Sign up for the Audi Tradition web shop and you can have one for €33

http://trshop.audi.de/konakart/Selec...VER&model=0001

It's described as 'used' so may be soiled from storage - can't see them actually stocking a used piece of trim!

Unfortunately no 940A part by the looks of it

Cornershop 12th March 2015 09:20 PM

Thanks Adrian! Have ordered that item

Adrian E 12th March 2015 10:27 PM

No probs - I've got £300 worth of stuff (3 items!) sitting in my basket which I can't quite bring myself to order lol

Phil303 16th March 2015 07:03 PM

I brought one of these from the forum sponsor last week. Less and £50 inc postage and a decent item too.

The glue between the plastic and metal fails over time. Not the best bit of design in all honesty, I was expecting the outer to be at least clipped onto the metal, not just dot and dabbed with a fixer.

Cornershop 16th March 2015 07:46 PM

I've got a new old stock item coming from ebay - there's a chap (dwb291195) selling a job lot of VAG parts which a Google search of the 940 part number led me to. This was one part in a bundle he's selling for £800 I believe.

It's got a few blemishes on it, however they're not deep so I'm planning a few coats of plastidip to even it out, will spray the rear door trim too for consistency.

£17.50 delivered, which is nice.

Cornershop 19th March 2015 09:40 AM

So these both turned up within 10 mins of each other today.

Thanks to Adrian, the one from Audi tradition does appear to be NOS! The second one from ebay is also NOS but with some battle scars from storage.

The main problem I see is that they look identical! I was expecting 939 and 940 to be different so wonder if theyve mixed up the packaging at some point - I can't see any part numbers on the trims only the bags they came in. I don't have the car with me to check, but won't be sending the 'spare' back, doesn't make sense for the price I picked them up for.

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HPsauce 1st July 2022 10:54 AM

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Old thread resurrection! :ROFL:

My drivers door lower trim is damaged; while doing some pre-MJ checks I caught my leg on it a few weeks ago! She didn't have time, given the huge load of other jobs, to look at it while it was there.

I found the plastic strip on the inside but it didn't want to slide. :tuttut:
It was quite loose at one end anyway and eventually just unclipped straight off; hopefully not too damaged to clip back on, otherwise it may need some adhesive or double-sided tape at the end of the job.

This is the door trim, not bad but I know it's wrong:

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...1&d=1656672955

HPsauce 1st July 2022 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by HPsauce (Post 170209)
I found the plastic strip on the inside but it didn't want to slide. :tuttut:
It was quite loose at one end anyway and eventually just unclipped straight off; hopefully not too damaged to clip back on, otherwise it may need some adhesive or double-sided tape at the end of the job.

And looking at the strip it appears that "someone" in the past has just pressed it onto the mounting studs rather than sliding it, probably why it wasn't very secure, wouldn't slide and popped off easily. :tuttut:
Fortunately there's not much damage and I can probably ease the plastic channel back into it's proper shape and slide it back on securely in due course. :cool:

Part of it had quite a bit of dirt behind, where it hadn't been fixed fully flush against the door surface. :(

HPsauce 1st July 2022 11:49 AM

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The evidence, there's a handful of places with similar witness marks. :mad:

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...1&d=1656681781
(The others also have smaller marks the other side of the channel as those clips did engage - this didn't hence the muck!)

Hopefully, if it doesn't go back on securely, A8Parts can supply one.

PS The photo is indeed upside down from how it is mounted on the door, but the lighting makes it look weird the other way up.

HPsauce 4th July 2022 10:23 AM

Today I removed the two screws that stop the strip moving, slid it backwards and removed it.
Oddly it looked fine, apart from some tears in the rubber seals, it was straight and true. :Confused:

Then I realised that there are seven fixing clips on the strip and that one was still on the door, the rearmost one!
They just clip into a channel and this had popped out but wouldn't push back on, so the end was sitting proud.
I just slid it off the door and clipped it back in place after carefully reshaping the metal it had been pulled away from.

For now it's just going back on; I'll see if our sponsors have an undamaged one that I can fit in its place in due course. If not I'll have a go at repairing the tears in the rubber.
(I have some compound that I've used fairly effectively on damage to the boot seal on the lower lip.)

HPsauce 4th July 2022 10:47 AM

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Looks good now and was a lot easier to fix than expected. +++
The cover strip on the inside also slid on correctly with a little "persuasion". :tuttut:

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...1&d=1656933478

MikkiJayne 4th July 2022 11:02 AM

Glad that was easily sorted :)

HPsauce 4th July 2022 11:20 AM

Me too, no glue required, just refit a clip! :cool:

Though I do wonder who'd been in there before and why, removing the cover strip incorrectly?


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