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Singh 11th December 2011 07:58 PM

Opinions on this D3 S8 please
 
It has everything I want but I'm no expert on the D3 yet, doesn't look like its got adaptive cruise? I know people say there is a problem with ceramic brakes but apart from that is there anything else I should be aware of?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...01148431817783

Love the C5, but it feels very dated inside to me and I've got it out my system now, yes it's insanely fast but in every other way it cannot touch a D2 S8, I do not regret buying it one bit and will happily keep it, but I may aswel try out a D3 S8 and cross the box that says 'V10' off my car to do list.

Singh 11th December 2011 10:14 PM

I've decided the mileage may do me harm come resale once it goes over 100k or nears 100k, therefore, not as keen now. Unless someone agrees to buy the ceramics for £3/4k from me on SRS.

sarg 11th December 2011 11:18 PM

1. The ad says Bose sounds, but they look like B&O in the photos

2. Don't be in a rush, prices are tumbling, the right one will come along, I've seen prices drop by 5-6k since I started thinking about one of these about 7-8 months ago.

PsYcHe 12th December 2011 09:27 AM

It's nice... As sarg says, looks like the B&O speakers in the door, but no 'powered up' dash shots to tell for sure. Not an AMI fit, probably a dension which doesn't work as well IMHO.

As to the 100k miles thing, I wouldn't worry about it, anyone who knows one of these shouldn't be worried about the mileage as long as it's fully serviced and in good nick. I don't think you'd lose much more than one with lower mileage.

Singh 12th December 2011 08:37 PM

Yeah Sarge I'm not in any rush, already got enough people lined up willing to take the RS6 off my hands so won't even need to advertise it.

Heard the views of an owner that has had both, he said the S8 isn't as fast as the RS6 but better in every other single way. Doesn't surprise me as its the same story with the D2 S8!

What I'll do straight away

Milltek
Facelift rear LEDS

Must haves

B&O

Would like

Adaptive cruise

I'm not fussed on colour, I know some will disagre but I think they look fantastic in silver.

daviesbike 12th December 2011 09:09 PM

take a look at the dimensions under Gross vehicle weight 2540 kg !! that cant be right surely ? with the d2 coming in at 1850 Kg thats not far off an extra tonne, is the RS6 2000 Kg ?

HPsauce 12th December 2011 09:15 PM

Isn't that one of those theoretical numbers related to towing limits?

Singh 12th December 2011 09:19 PM

Nah, must be wrong. I am sure it is no where near that weight, the RS 6 is around 19xx iirc, I reckon the D3 is 19xx too. Must be towing limits as HP says.

daviesbike 12th December 2011 09:22 PM

1,940 kg (4,277 lb) just googled it

HPsauce 12th December 2011 09:32 PM

According to the brochure (and yes, I'm anal enough to have the right one for my car) the PF S8 weighs 1750kg unladen and the Gross Weight Limit is 2350kg.

Even worse I have a post-it note inside the brochure comparing some key dimensions to its predecessor (a Rover 800 of some sort - I had many of them!):
25% heavier (mostly V8), 6" longer, same width (over mirrors), same boot capacity, 2" more headroom and 5" more rear seat width.
(and yes I do still have some Rover 800 brochures too...... :o )

Architex_mA8tey 13th December 2011 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by HPsauce (Post 30215)
According to the brochure (and yes, I'm anal enough to have the right one for my car) the PF S8 weighs 1750kg unladen and the Gross Weight Limit is 2350kg.

Even worse I have a post-it note inside the brochure comparing some key dimensions to its predecessor (a Rover 800 of some sort - I had many of them!):
25% heavier (mostly V8), 6" longer, same width (over mirrors), same boot capacity, 2" more headroom and 5" more rear seat width.
(and yes I do still have some Rover 800 brochures too...... :o )

I used to have a rover limo :rolleyes:
is that a contradiction?? ;p;

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...1&d=1323809746

Singh 13th December 2011 08:06 PM

This thread is for D3 S8 talk only! :tuttut:

Besides your limo business was an interesting venture bud, deserves its own thread +++

Architex_mA8tey 13th December 2011 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Singh (Post 30301)
This thread is for D3 S8 talk only! :tuttut:

Besides your limo business was an interesting venture bud, deserves its own thread +++

LOL says RS6 Boy haha
I could write a book about doing Limos and funerals/weddings lol will share some stories when we are all having a get together one day :rolleyes:

Reffro 14th December 2011 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by daviesbike (Post 30211)
take a look at the dimensions under Gross vehicle weight 2540 kg !! that cant be right surely ? with the d2 coming in at 1850 Kg thats not far off an extra tonne, is the RS6 2000 Kg ?

GVW = Max Weight of the Vehicle = Kerbweight + passengers + luggage

1850kg is the approx Kerbweight of a D2 S8, add the passengers and luggage and the full weight will be about 2350-2400kg.

daviesbike 14th December 2011 12:19 PM

Lol I had a Rover 620 ti was a fine car back in the day haha+++

Architex_mA8tey 14th December 2011 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by daviesbike (Post 30367)
Lol I had a Rover 620 ti was a fine car back in the day haha+++

ooh I had one of those too they were very quick but chewed tyres up about every 8000 miles :rolleyes:

Night Train 14th December 2011 09:49 PM

Nothing wrong with Rovers

I've still got one, last of the proper Rovers though :D

(first to try a 5cyl engine & inboard discs in the P6 shape, and gas turbine in the P4 Shape - JET 1)

tonupkid 14th December 2011 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by daviesbike (Post 30367)
Lol I had a Rover 620 ti was a fine car back in the day haha+++

If they ever had a day, I must have been out on it,

Singh 15th December 2011 12:29 AM

Guys, why are we talking about Rovers on my D3 S8 thread. :rolleyes:

Architex_mA8tey 15th December 2011 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Singh (Post 30408)
Guys, why are we talking about Rovers on my D3 S8 thread. :rolleyes:

Cos youre not buying this one and we are "freestylin' " lol :p

PsYcHe 15th December 2011 01:39 PM

Had a 620ti as well.. Was lethal in the wet, even on Pirellis :)

tonupkid 15th December 2011 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Architex_mA8tey (Post 30413)
Cos youre not buying this one and we are "freestylin' " lol :p

Good one :ROFL: and true

HPsauce 15th December 2011 10:47 PM

I even had a satan-fuelled 2L autocratic Rover 75 tourer (estate) a few years ago; company car all-expenses-paid "runabout". :o
(alongside the S8; in fact I was having a "day out" in the Rover when my S8 was nicked off my drive :mad: )

OK I had it "chipped" by Van Aaken (who remembers them?) so it was running about 180bhp and god-only-knows what torque.
It was always amusing to be sitting alongside Dell-boys in 3-series whatevers at the lights and leave them for dust!
The auto box with the remap was startling, and amazingly MORE fuel-efficient. :Confused:

Adrian E 16th December 2011 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HPsauce (Post 30446)
OK I had it "chipped" by Van Aaken (who remembers them?)

I remember them! Although I should really, as my office was directly above their workshop in Crowthorne.....

Owner had all sorts of nice classic Lancias incl an 8:32 Thema and some much older stuff in various states of disrepair :( Had a ridiculous yank truck as well that'd leave black lines whenever it left the car park.

Gather they went bust a few years ago? Can't say I'm surprised as always had more staff playing with toys than actual paying customers....

Singh 16th December 2011 10:58 PM

Ranj picked me up in his D2 A8 sport earlier, and it felt a million dollars. The seats are so much more comfortable and supportive then the C5. I just can't get comfortable in the C5, it feels horribly cheap coming from the D2, today just cemented what I already felt. Need to decide over the next few weeks, what to do. C5 vs D2, there really isn't a contest. There is not a single way in which the C5 excels over the D2 bar speed.

A. Buy the warranty for the RS6 and keep it.
B. Flog it, and buy a D3 S8 complete with milltek - not as fast but better in every other way.

The RS 6 did get some recognition by three school boys today, they heard it, one told the other they all looked amazed and stopped and stared so I booted it, made their day. Made mine, no one else ever notices it. They reminded me of me when I was there age and I saw a B5 or C5 RS, my mate who was with me at the time said they probably recognised it from Forza or something.

notorious 17th December 2011 07:42 AM

Has James sold his D2 ?

It is hard to find d2 in proper condition

But IMHO d2 is classic

darrenjoe90 17th December 2011 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Singh (Post 30522)

A. Buy the warranty for the RS6 and keep it.
B. Flog it, and buy a D3 S8 complete with milltek - not as fast but better in every other way.

Amar is there any private roads near to the meet just for educational reasons to compare performance differences between C5 and D3 +++ ( or in short you wana race :D )

Architex_mA8tey 17th December 2011 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 30524)
Has James sold his D2 ?

It is hard to find d2 in proper condition

But IMHO d2 is classic

Not as yet he hasn't no Sergey
I know the first guy to see it made him an offer but it was less than he wanted
so its still there and available to buy Amar!! :D

Singh 17th December 2011 12:44 PM

As much as I love James's car, I'm not looking for another D2, may aswel be a D3 or wait a year or so for the C6 RS 6 prices to fall to £25k, 700+ BHP, luvlay jubly.

I'm sure we could find somewhere Darren, it will be interesting to see. I have to warn you though my plus hits 60 in 4.4 seconds dead and as it is a plus is delimited from factory to 175 mph (not that I would in this country) sounds like thunder, it really is evil, if I keep it for inters, it will be pushing 540ish BHP, no cats and a remap, 0-60 will be 3.8/9 and 1/4 mile in the early 12s. I know two C5 RS6 owners that hit 200+ mph with that spec, one of them hit a GPS verified 204 MPH.

IT 17th December 2011 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Singh (Post 30522)
Ranj picked me up in his D2 A8 sport earlier, and it felt a million dollars. The seats are so much more comfortable and supportive then the C5. I just can't get comfortable in the C5, it feels horribly cheap coming from the D2, today just cemented what I already felt. Need to decide over the next few weeks, what to do. C5 vs D2, there really isn't a contest. There is not a single way in which the C5 excels over the D2 bar speed.

A. Buy the warranty for the RS6 and keep it.
B. Flog it, and buy a D3 S8 complete with milltek - not as fast but better in every other way.

The RS 6 did get some recognition by three school boys today, they heard it, one told the other they all looked amazed and stopped and stared so I booted it, made their day. Made mine, no one else ever notices it. They reminded me of me when I was there age and I saw a B5 or C5 RS, my mate who was with me at the time said they probably recognised it from Forza or something.

This is *exactly* how I felt. The RS6 on its own is a brilliant car, that many people would kill to own. But, it is still essentially just an A6 with some sporty bits, so the climate is pants, the DIS looks dated, theres no memory seats, no standard twin pane, no real ride comfort and a constant fear that an expensive part will need renewing. If youve had an A8 all these things bug you whenever you're in it.

You've lived your childhood dream now, so move it on, and get a spankingly nice specced D3 S8 - You know you want to :D

darrenjoe90 17th December 2011 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Singh (Post 30535)

I'm sure we could find somewhere Darren, it will be interesting to see. I have to warn you though my plus hits 60 in 4.4 seconds dead and as it is a plus is delimited from factory to 175 mph (not that I would in this country) sounds like thunder, it really is evil, if I keep it for inters, it will be pushing 540ish BHP, no cats and a remap, 0-60 will be 3.8/9 and 1/4 mile in the early 12s. I know two C5 RS6 owners that hit 200+ mph with that spec, one of them hit a GPS verified 204 MPH.

I know Amar that your RS6+ will be faster but by just how much ?? is it that much faster than a D3 and is it worth the sacrifice of all that luxury, comfort and toys ??
I love your car Amar, it looks fantastic and i bet it goes like s**t of a shovel but at the end of the day i would like to give it back and drive home in my 8 :)

ainarssems 17th December 2011 06:19 PM

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is it worth the sacrifice of all that luxury, comfort and toys ??
Power steering, AC, electric drivers window is all the luxury I need. Would not mind heated windscreen- the rest is just toys.

Singh 17th December 2011 07:34 PM

Yeah it looks, sounds and goes really well. The interior is terrible, I'm not fussed about the gearbox or engine blowing up as it will be warrantied if I keep it with a company that have history of paying out claims straight away no fuss whatsoever on the RS6. Right now I could get really good money for the plus, I could sell the plus, buy a D3 S8 and have a couple of grand left over. Will it still be the same story a few months down the line? Or will C5s suddenly drop and then I'll be paying to upgrade to a D3, who knows. My RS6 will easily be the most expensive for sale in the country if I were to list it. There is only one other plus for sale right now in silver with 102k for £17k, not sure if the sprint one on DRC with 80k for £22,500 sold or not. I'm fast approaching 38k now, putting in £110 of fuel a week compared to £69 a month with the Beemer. :ROFL:

sarg 18th December 2011 12:43 AM

I'm pretty sure the S8 values will continue to plummet just as fast as every other big engined expensive car ;)

daviesbike 18th December 2011 01:15 PM

only thing i will upgrade mine to is a D3 S8 with miltek, like i mentioned quite some time ago i test drove the rs6 and was not impressed i hate to say this but it felt cheap in comparison to any facelift D2, yes 0-60 is great but try to live with it in the long run an you sacrifice comfort over power, its a hard balance, Unit 20 are offering a drive in and drive out Pes package for the D2 s8 std 360bhp drive out with 520bhp thats 10k includes a hire car for a few days and a full 12 month warrenty on any failings, then you can have comfort and sacks of power in a lighter chassi +++

Singh 18th December 2011 02:44 PM

Went to see a D3 S8 today, didn't drive it. Interior is nice, wasn't impressed with the B&O at all, but I only had the radio to test it. I reckon I'll hang on to the plus for a bit. What I have loved about my BMW is the way they handle and drive, even a 2.0D BMW out handles a performance S/RS Audi. What I like about the Audi is the four wheel drive and twin turbo power so I reckon I've found a car that will do both. Yep, I reckon my next car will be *drum roll* a Porsche 996 Turbo. It should be quicker then the RS6, and out handle the BMW. The interior won't be as nice but it is a good sacrifice and I can't afford a 997 yet. So that's where I'm at now.

Architex_mA8tey 18th December 2011 02:54 PM

You change your mind with the wind Amar lol. :p
You need to try a D3 S8 properly before you dismiss it out of hand.
I agree you should hang on to the plus longer but you're putting miles on it when it should be a second car really. Get yourself another runaround if you can, keep it for weekends etc and take your time trying a few S8 D3's etc :D

HPsauce 18th December 2011 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by daviesbike (Post 30594)
Unit 20 are offering a drive in and drive out Pes package for the D2 s8 std 360bhp drive out with 520bhp thats 10k includes a hire car for a few days and a full 12 month warrenty on any failings,

Presumably that's for the later 40-valve engine, not the 32-valve I have.

So, how do they do that and what's included in the price?
(and what does Pes mean?)

sarg 18th December 2011 03:07 PM

Amar, what was it about the B&O that failed to impress? I have only been looking at D3s with the B&O, but not listened to it yet

Adrian E 18th December 2011 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HPsauce (Post 30597)
Presumably that's for the later 40-valve engine, not the 32-valve I have.

So, how do they do that and what's included in the price?
(and what does Pes mean?)

PES make superchargers - based in the States - they're imported by a bloke known as Spinner on the forums and Unit20 are one of 2 or 3 approved installers.

Cost includes all the parts required plus fitting and re-map to suit.

Aside from the cost, what puts me off is the fact you could really do with a 6th gear if you're running that much extra power and the gearbox will be put under greater strain if you use the power a lot


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