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daviesbike 20th June 2012 11:34 AM

A8 W12 For sale
 
Im sure most of you know that i have a Black A8 W12

sadly there have been some unexpected situations and i regret i must sell my beloved W12

as im sure most of you are aware the engine has only covered approx 9k miles
as it was brand new and fitted by audi in november 2011

the car has since been detaled and a full Da polishing and it looks great a few minor stone chips on the bonnet

im thinking of getting a D2 S8 or maybe getting my old D2 back again i do miss that car

car has full audi service as to be expected sorry that this post is a bit half hearted but im sure you will all ask questions if your interested

i may take PX on a D3 or a D2 would be very interested in LPG if you have it

the car still has a comprehensive warranty for about 3 months or so, so if you have any problems it wont cost

i did have some minor issues with the car when i first bought it but they were rectified by martin at Unit 20 im sure he will back me up on the engine side of things

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looking for around 12k ono it also has 12 months mot and will come with 6 months tax as it runs out on the 31st

will be very sad indeed to let her go but sadly i have no choice :-(

thanks for looking

not the best pictures but hear are some of the underside

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gninnam 20th June 2012 01:32 PM

Sorry about this :-(
Good luck with the sale +++

47p2 20th June 2012 02:06 PM

Sorry you're having to sell the W12 Guy, hope everything works out for you.

briang9 20th June 2012 06:22 PM

hope everything is OK Guy, sorry to hear you need to part with the W12

take care

Architex_mA8tey 20th June 2012 07:04 PM

Sorry to hear that Guy - hope things improve for you and that you find the D2 you're looking for - all the best mate

sarg 21st June 2012 08:22 AM

Sorry to hear you're selling Guy.

It's way out of my range, but you might want to mention the age and actual mileage of the car

daviesbike 22nd June 2012 06:45 PM

thanks guy's im sorry to be selling to be honest its one of the best buys i found and what a bonus that the scary part has been changed to a new one,

mileage is 103k mot for 12 months
tax 6 months
and its a 54 reg

David's8 22nd June 2012 08:46 PM

Sorry that you are having sell the car. I hope all turns out well for you Guy.

PsYcHe 22nd June 2012 09:21 PM

Sorry to hear she has to go guy.. Lovely car.. Hope everything works out for you..

my PF D3 is up for sale (for the 3rd time)... or is that above the new budget?

daviesbike 23rd June 2012 03:30 PM

give me a link i will have a look, but i would like a D3 really with the same spec as the W12 just with out the extra few hundred ponies

would like ACC
TV ect
LPG if i can find one or a dare i say this an oil burner :-(

PsYcHe 23rd June 2012 07:30 PM

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-AUDI-...item416741f038

It's petrol, doesn't have LPG, but has ACC and TV, sports suspension, etc.

daviesbike 24th June 2012 03:09 PM

if only you wanted mine as a part exchange i would have it but i can see mine being for sale for a while the 6.0L is not what every one wants at the moment few can run it, would love that spec in an LPG converted car dont mind it at all

Dezzy 25th June 2012 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PsYcHe (Post 42283)
Sorry to hear she has to go guy.. Lovely car.. Hope everything works out for you..

my PF D3 is up for sale (for the 3rd time)... or is that above the new budget?

Quote:

Originally Posted by PsYcHe (Post 42299)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-AUDI-...item416741f038

It's petrol, doesn't have LPG, but has ACC and TV, sports suspension, etc.

I'm sort of regretting not having this one off you Richard.

In fear of upsetting anyone, isn't that where they hang monkeys?

daviesbike 25th June 2012 04:48 PM

just had a call off this bloke offering me £1000 cash + this TDI D3

what do you think ?

http://www.mayfairprestigeuk.co.uk/u...01212458231856

47p2 25th June 2012 05:13 PM

Not a LWB

daviesbike 25th June 2012 05:52 PM

not not a LWB but i dont think that matters he is going to give me 1000 in cash + give me that one with only 64k miles mine has covered about 103 k and its newer and should have a digi tv i would have thought

47p2 25th June 2012 06:12 PM

That will still be an analogue tv

daviesbike 25th June 2012 06:22 PM

ah rite, i dont understand this insurance palava, bloody got a 6.0L audi now and its cheaper to tax and cheaper to insure by a combined total of about 700 quid a year

IT 25th June 2012 06:31 PM

I posted that 3.0 Tdi up yonks ago iirc - Its the odd one that is £400+ tax disc when it shouldnt be. Most odd....

The spec of that car is quite ordinary. Its a sport, and got blinds... Woo.

Not exactly the high spec he's claiming.

If you want a high spec motor, this aint the one. Also, try the diesel before you commit to it. The sound of a diesel is tough to bear if you're used to the refinement of petrol.

daviesbike 25th June 2012 06:47 PM

what MPG did you get did you get that 1000miles to a tank ? did you get about 40 mpg

IT 25th June 2012 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daviesbike (Post 42458)
what MPG did you get did you get that 1000miles to a tank ? did you get about 40 mpg

Nearer 48 I think when I was driving like a fanny ;)

All time average settled to about 37 when I started driving it properly.. +++

daviesbike 25th June 2012 07:35 PM

thats good so i guess the sacrifice will pay off in the long run then ? because i know they are noisy and they are not as refined as the petrol

would prefer a 4.2 on LPG but not going to find one i dont think, not that easy to come by a decent one

roberto 26th June 2012 07:03 PM

- Its the odd one that is £400+ tax disc -

its only the LWB 3.0tdi's that are in the next tax band £460
all SWB 3.0tdi are £260
the 4.2 petrol is also £460 i believe and the 4.2 tdi
this only applies to cars registered after 23rd march 2006
so any of the above registered 22nd march 2006 and before are all the same
£260-ish
thats why the W12 6.0 is cheap unless you own a 2006 23rd march car then its £460

daviesbike 26th June 2012 07:22 PM

something is not right with it but it dose seem a good deal not sure yet might just sell mine get a 6k 4.2 and pay 1k LPG and be done with it but its hard to get the facelift i like the Large single grill but cant find one on the 4.2 unless its silly money

roberto 26th June 2012 08:50 PM

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-AUDI-...ht_1048wt_1154

this looks nice and cheap

and this one
http://www2.autotrader.co.uk/classif...ol/model/a8/ma

daviesbike 26th June 2012 09:24 PM

that auto trader one is good i like it and it has the grill i like but would still have to spend 1k or so on LPG for it but a dam good motor i think for that money its a facelift too

daviesbike 26th June 2012 09:26 PM

i may give them a tinkle tomorrow and see what deal he would do as a part exchange +++

daviesbike 2nd July 2012 10:45 AM

well im picking this up on july the 6th http://www2.autotrader.co.uk/classif...ol/model/a8/ma

W12 will be gone LPG convertion on the new one and happy motoring i hope

IT 2nd July 2012 11:26 AM

Low mileage, but really basic non sport spec - Non factory entertainment system too. Hope you knocked quite a bit off the listed price ??

sutherland 2nd July 2012 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IT (Post 42832)
Low mileage, but really basic non sport spec - Non factory entertainment system too. Hope you knocked quite a bit off the listed price ??

Even at the listed price it's cheap enough -- in fact it's the cheapest A8 on Autorader that's less than 7 years old and with a mileage lower than 80k.

Architex_mA8tey 2nd July 2012 09:13 PM

It also is a great colour and looks smart for chauffeuring etc and as long as it feels limo like in the back thats what matters +++

IT 3rd July 2012 11:37 AM

I guess really I just want to make sure Guy doesnt make an impulse buy on a car that isnt exactly what he wants. I got the impression that the W12 left him wanting for a few more toys and trimmings after he got it.

The 4.2 FSI is a rare car - Thats because most people want the Diesels by the facelift age. To those like me and Guy that value a petrol, might as well leverage their unpopularity to their buying advantage.

Just because its the cheapest one there, doesnt mean its a good price.

Ive been watching S6's now for 3 weeks. The cheapest advertised is £13500, with most being 14 or 15K +. Only two have gone to auction on Ebay, 1 with sensible miles, nice spec and colour making only 10.5K, and another starting at 12.5K got no bids.

That puts the value of S6's around 11K in my eyes, maybe 12 from a dealer. And for that reason, I've not bought one yet, as everyones asking stupid money for them.

My point is - Pay what you need to, not what is being asked for.

A8 Doc 3rd July 2012 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IT (Post 42893)
I guess really I just want to make sure Guy doesnt make an impulse buy on a car that isnt exactly what he wants. I got the impression that the W12 left him wanting for a few more toys and trimmings after he got it.

The 4.2 FSI is a rare car - Thats because most people want the Diesels by the facelift age. To those like me and Guy that value a petrol, might as well leverage their unpopularity to their buying advantage.

Just because its the cheapest one there, doesnt mean its a good price.

Ive been watching S6's now for 3 weeks. The cheapest advertised is £13500, with most being 14 or 15K +. Only two have gone to auction on Ebay, 1 with sensible miles, nice spec and colour making only 10.5K, and another starting at 12.5K got no bids.

That puts the value of S6's around 11K in my eyes, maybe 12 from a dealer. And for that reason, I've not bought one yet, as everyones asking stupid money for them.

My point is - Pay what you need to, not what is being asked for.

Agreed. Guy, just a small point you cannot convert the FSi engine to LPG if that was your intention. Fine if not of course!

IT 3rd July 2012 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A8 Doc (Post 42918)
Agreed. Guy, just a small point you cannot convert the FSi engine to LPG if that was your intention. Fine if not of course!

Good point. Forgot about that - You *can* convert them now, but they are in their infancy and costs more than a regular conversion.

Prins started doing one late last year....

http://prinsautogasuk.co.uk/PrinsVSI/VSIDI.html

This is why you dont see any of Audi V10s converted - Yet +++

sutherland 4th July 2012 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IT (Post 42893)
I guess really I just want to make sure Guy doesnt make an impulse buy on a car that isnt exactly what he wants.

Fair enough if that is the logic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by IT (Post 42893)
The 4.2 FSI is a rare car - Thats because most people want the Diesels by the facelift age. To those like me and Guy that value a petrol, might as well leverage their unpopularity to their buying advantage.

It's a rare car, but I don't believe it always works like this in the marketplace. Using a source that I use for vehicle disposals I have access to information on Autotrader that is not on the public site, such as how long a car has been advertised for and it is always the diesel A8s that have been out there for the longest--one of them for more than 400 days. That dealer might need to consider voluntary liquidation soon. The popularity or unpopularity of cars is beside the point, what matters is how many serious buyers there are for a car at any time--one is normally enough. The Ferrari 250 GTO is 'unpopular', but you'd struggle to leverage that to your buying advantage.

Quote:

Originally Posted by IT (Post 42893)
Just because its the cheapest one there, doesnt mean its a good price.

Ive been watching S6's now for 3 weeks. The cheapest advertised is £13500, with most being 14 or 15K +. Only two have gone to auction on Ebay, 1 with sensible miles, nice spec and colour making only 10.5K, and another starting at 12.5K got no bids.

That puts the value of S6's around 11K in my eyes, maybe 12 from a dealer. And for that reason, I've not bought one yet, as everyones asking stupid money for them.

My point is - Pay what you need to, not what is being asked for.

Maybe. This is a fine theory, but not a realistic strategy if you need to buy a car or an Audi S6 in particular. The Ebay auction results are largely irrelevant--that's just not the way to sell an Audi S6 and anyone who really sells such cars through eBay auctions gets the price they want with a shill bid here and there.

As for Guy's new A8, here is another example. The following A8 sold in BCA Bleckbushe last week for a bit over £5k: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/170869701539. By the time the dealer paid auction fees, got it transported, and covered his costs he probably paid £5,500. That car was cheap because it was privately entered and didn't go through at the proper time (the seller might have reason to be irritated). If Guy had bought his car at auction it would probably have made around £8,500-9,000 so long as it had been entered by a good source. So he surely hasn't paid through the nose even if he paid the ticket price.

Now for an example of a diesel. This car made £8,600 at BCA Blackbushe towards the end of last year (October if my memory serves me correctly): http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/370625234901, so let's call it £9k after fees and transport. They first hit the market advertising this at £13k, gradually came down to £9k, and for reasons best know to themselves, have returned to £11k. £13k was competitve at the time, but they've still got it. Why? In part, it's because there are so many A8 diesels and if you want to sell them you need to be very competitve ... cheap. Dealers too often get stuck with them for months and make a loss or sell them quickly for barely enough to cover the cost of the trip to auction.

If dealers want to make money on A8s the best way to do it is ... buy a petrol and leverage their rarity to your selling advantage.

Or perhaps we are just "fooled by randomness".

daviesbike 4th July 2012 10:49 AM

MMMMM all very valid points from all sides of it but i have looked all over the Web to find a simmilar or higher spec than my W12 in a 4.2 with a facelift grill and i just cant find one ..... other wise i would go for that, but of course the other thing is that im part exchanging my W12 for a 4.2 and most of the time the 4.2 is worth less than the 12 so im the one asking for cash as well as a part exchange ? and so far 3 people i have asked have been very intrested and offered me up to 2k in return witch will pay for my LPG convertion ?

realisticly i would like ;

Quad zone
Keyless entry and start
mood lighting
Led lighting
Full blind package
19 or 20" wheels
adaptive cruse
sports interior and air ride
(option) rear entertainment

but i think im being too greedy and im not going to get all that in a 4.2 for less than 9-10k

if any one can find one then il snap there hands off for it +++

IT 4th July 2012 11:02 AM

If its the right p/x deal, got all the spec you *need*, the mileage you need and in a colour you like - Crack on, and the price is less important. You are the 1 specialist customer, finding the specialist car that sutherland quite rightly refers to.

My theory is I will always comprimise on some of the above providing its cheap enough to sell on without really losing much money when I decide its not got x, or y is bugging me. If its missing simple things that can be retrofitted cheapish, again I can brush over that a bit.

Above all - You need to be sure its a keeper before you sink £2K into an LPG conversion.

Genuinely just want to see you in a car that your totally happy with, and I'm just getting a bit of a 'its the best I can find' vibe rather than a 'its perfect' - So, if you have managed to get it cheap, worst case, you dont lose so much if you have to move it on... +++

daviesbike 4th July 2012 11:10 AM

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2002-Land-...#ht_1086wt_984

maybe i should buy this and be done with it

daviesbike 4th July 2012 11:13 AM

I do agree IT, and im quite fussy with what i want but at the end of the day i can be because its me thats got to live with the car i mean i found a decent spec one that has LPG all ready but its not a facelift http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-AUDI-...#ht_1772wt_932

wich is a shame because the spec is not bad at all

IT 4th July 2012 11:26 AM

Ex forum members car....

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2411

It was good spec, nice colour...... You could always fit a facelift front end if the rest of it checked out....


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