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The_Laird 7th March 2013 08:23 AM

Hands-free in a D2
 
Well, my familly finally dragged me into the 21st Century and got me an iPhone (version 4) and I reluctanly gave up my trusy Nokia 6310i.

Trouble is, I really liked the D2's hands free kit, particularly with the phone set to auto answer.

I did synch the iPhone to the Parrot bluetooth that was in the car when I bought it, but I think it's faulty - sometimes there's just a ton of noise; sometimes I can hear the caller but they can't hear me. And I don't much like having to 'answer' the call by hunting for the green button on the Parrot thingy (it's under the armrests).

What I's really like, is the built-in hands free to work with the iPhone, but there's not a cradle for it. So, any recommendations? Either to get the iPhone to work with the built-in hands-free, or another bluetooth option.

briang9 7th March 2013 09:48 AM

Jim , which Parrot kit do you have? I have the PARROT CK3100 which you can set up to Auto answer, and also activate voice recognition for outgoing calls, so gives you true hands free, mine works pretty well with my phone but I have no experience of using an Iphone with it. One thing which is easy to check is whether the mic connection is loose, mine got knocked out when I was fitting my connects2 box and just required re-plugging in, its just a plain jack plug connection

http://www.parrot.com/uk/compatibility

cheers

The_Laird 7th March 2013 11:03 AM

I'll have a look when I get back in the car....

PsYcHe 7th March 2013 11:44 AM

Or... you could look into the MKi9200 which does music and stuff too. got one in the Volvo, works a treat.. Bit more expensive than the 3000 but it's still plug and play.

The_Laird 7th March 2013 01:25 PM

Mine looks like the CK3100, but more square. It might be an obsolete model. But on the MKi9200, does the display show track info from your iPod and how do you control the iPod? Looks interesting as the Dension thingy isn't up to much either

RanjS8 7th March 2013 01:31 PM

Mki9200
 
Is quality....you can play track via Bluetooth from your iPhone or connect via the iPhone cable and you scan through tracks like an iPod on the parrot screen....the only thing is it hooks up by interrupting the sound feed from the Rns/stereo to the speakers....and unfortunately there is no way of controlling fade and balance so it kinda ruins the sound quality of the music....otherwise very good indeed.

PsYcHe 7th March 2013 03:03 PM

I thought mine did fade and balance.. Have you updated to latest firmware?

The MKi9200 also lets you have 2 phones connected, though only one syncs contacts.

I've got a little HDD connected to it, and there's a little remote control doohickey (wireless) that runs the show.

RanjS8 7th March 2013 03:59 PM

Parrot fade balance
 
Maybe my inability to find the fade/balance options....I do have the latest firmware....it was the first thing I did

notorious 8th March 2013 01:08 PM

Jim,

Don;t get gragged to 21st century. Nokia 6310i is a phone forever.

Here's my solution: I have both iPhone 5 and Nokia 6310i in my car.

Nokia 6310i is located permanently in armrest. Stock config. This is permanent car phone. Because external Audi antenna is great people can call me to places where normal mobile phone doesn't work.

iPhone rests in my pocket and is connected to Audi bluetooth module which is perfectly integrated with RNS-E.

Two Audi microphones are located in overhead light occupying two stock microphone grills.

Both phones mute RNS-E when call comes to one or the other.

I can even call from one telephone to another if I want to and everything works perfectly.

I have writeup about it in somewhere in this forum.

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Originally Posted by The_Laird (Post 54258)
Well, my familly finally dragged me into the 21st Century and got me an iPhone (version 4) and I reluctanly gave up my trusy Nokia 6310i.

Trouble is, I really liked the D2's hands free kit, particularly with the phone set to auto answer.

I did synch the iPhone to the Parrot bluetooth that was in the car when I bought it, but I think it's faulty - sometimes there's just a ton of noise; sometimes I can hear the caller but they can't hear me. And I don't much like having to 'answer' the call by hunting for the green button on the Parrot thingy (it's under the armrests).

What I's really like, is the built-in hands free to work with the iPhone, but there's not a cradle for it. So, any recommendations? Either to get the iPhone to work with the built-in hands-free, or another bluetooth option.


The_Laird 8th March 2013 02:34 PM

That sounds more like it, except that I've had the same mobile number since the world began! What I'd really like is twin SIM cards (with the same number). Then I could turn off the iPhone when in the car and turn off the Nokia when I got out.

Dave McB 8th March 2013 03:30 PM

Er - can you not forward the Iphone on to the nokia while driving?

easy!

Architex_mA8tey 8th March 2013 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave McB (Post 54322)
Er - can you not forward the Iphone on to the nokia while driving?

easy!

He can, but he will be charged for any forwarding call costs - so in effect he will be charged on one mobile bill for dialing the other to forward it.
Suggest 2 options -

Option 1 - Orange had a business tariff called single number which meant you could have dual sims but on one visible number so that you could nominate one as the primary number and when that was switched off it automatically rang the second sim instead.

Option 2 is to get a tariff on the main mobile that includes free calling to any mobile at any time then if you divert the original mobile all call diversion costs will be free - tmobile do a tariff called full monty at the moment which gives you unlimited texts, data and calls to any mobile or landline for £41 a month which means you can use your iphone as a wifi hot spot as well for no extra costs!

The_Laird 11th March 2013 02:04 PM

I'm on giff gaff - cheap and cheerful.

But maybe this would do the job? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/16in1-Phon...item3a5b5bba02

HPsauce 2nd April 2013 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 54316)
Jim,
Two Audi microphones are located in overhead light occupying two stock microphone grills.

Do all light units have both grilles or are there different versions?
I had a look at mine (FL D2, no phone prep) and there are 2 grilles but they are a fair way forwards, in front of the map light switches. :Confused:

I'm working out how to properly install a bluetooth phone kit (already wired in and working in "lashup mode") and need somewhere to locate the microphone.
I can see a small mark in the headling :tuttut: where a previous owner obviously had a microphone cable coming out from behind the front roof light etc. control panel very close to the driver, but I'd prefer something neater.

Can someone advise what the sequence is for removing that panel (with the lights and switches in) to feed a microphone cable to wherever I finally site it?

And is an Audi microphone (from A8parts obviously) likely to be compatible and better, so worth doing a bit of "splicing"? The microphone with the bluetooth unit has a simple 2-conductor jack connector so easy to swap.

The_Laird 2nd April 2013 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by HPsauce (Post 55359)
Can someone advise what the sequence is for removing that panel (with the lights and switches in) to feed a microphone cable to wherever I finally site it?

.

IIRC, it just pops out. I'll have a look later and let you know

HPsauce 2nd April 2013 11:57 AM

I found a plausible answer here: http://forums.quattroworld.com/a8/msgs/71331.phtml
Though it's not clear how the 2 smaller panels come out - presumably prised out somehow, but no clues when you look at them?

The_Laird 3rd April 2013 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HPsauce (Post 55359)

Can someone advise what the sequence is for removing that panel (with the lights and switches in) to feed a microphone cable to wherever I finally site it?

The panel with the microphone does, indeed, pop out (so I assume the other one does too). There are copper coloured spring clips to the front (windscreen end) and fixed clips to the rear (see photos). A thin, flat blade inserted gently at the front end will pop it out quite easily.

I also took a picture of the electrical gubbins FYI

briang9 3rd April 2013 05:52 PM

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Not sure if it helps you or not HP, but just got my tame photographer to take these, sorry about the greasy marks on the plastic:tuttut:

anyhow when I got mine whoever fitted the old BT thinghy appears to have mounted the Mic as shown with double sided tape, and it works fine, did a pretty good job of concealing the wire too, so much so that I cant tell where its routed (and I never noticed before now that its not quite centred properly/OCD Mode off)

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...3&d=1365011507

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...4&d=1365011507

slopes off for the Mr Sheen and a soft cloth:o

ETA just popped back out and the cable just comes out through the join at the edge of the panel to the rear of the mic, but must admit never really noticed it before now. Are the grilles Notorious refers to those in front of the light switces either side of the sun roof control?

HPsauce 3rd April 2013 05:55 PM

Many thanks for that Your Lairdship and Brian, just had mine out and it's exactly the same except no microphone! +++
Odd that the microphone sits on the passenger side though......:Confused:
(though looking at the way everything is installed it could probably be swapped to the other side very easily)

The other panel with the lights in seems rather firmer and I didn't get it out, though I didn't try too hard just in case. :tuttut:

Now I have to figure out how to get a lead up there from the glovebox area.

IT 3rd April 2013 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by HPsauce (Post 55500)
Odd that the microphone sits on the passenger side though......:Confused:

Now I have to figure out how to get a lead up there from the glovebox

Mic has always sat Passenger side. Seems to be one of the few cases where something was design for LHD and they just didnt both moving it over for RHD. Never seems to be a problem though.

Behind A pillar is easiest, lots of curtain airbag to work around though to do it properly. A piller trim wont come off unless you remove the grab handle and use needle nose pliers to pull the hidden tab than holds the trim firmly in place.

And watch the alcantara. If you crease it, its never quite the same and it *will* bug you every time you see it... ;)

HPsauce 3rd April 2013 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by IT (Post 55503)
Mic has always sat Passenger side. .............

Behind A pillar is easiest.............

Looking again the mic can't actually be swapped with the electrical connectors, so nearside it is.

I'm thinking of using the same route I used on my focus for some auto-dim mirror wiring, basically around the edge of the windscreen then between the main dashboard moulding and the A-pillar trim and down near the door.
A thin cable can be tucked away there invisibly and quickly and if it's on the nearside can go straight into the glovebox to the bluetooth unit.

Yes, Ian, I know you wouldn't do that. :ROFL:

HPsauce 5th April 2013 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by HPsauce (Post 55500)
The other panel with the lights in seems rather firmer and I didn't get it out, though I didn't try too hard just in case. :tuttut:

Just for reference I did finally get it out today. It was in VERY tight. :tuttut:
The fixing is a sort of mirror image of the switch panel, so metal spring clips at the REAR which once levered out unlatches the plastic lugs at the front of the panel.
The edge that needs to be levered is recessed into the surround and extremely tight so you need a thin, strong and wide tool and a lot of force. Take the bulb cover and bulbs out first. ;)
It is so tight on mine that once I'd put it back I couldn't get it out again. :mad: (well I didn't want to try hard enough)

On mine the switch panel in contrast is very easy, in fact it will come out by just grasping the sunroof switch and pulling down and backwards releasing the front edge. And that's the only one I need to take out to fit the microphone. +++

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Originally Posted by HPsauce (Post 55504)
around the edge of the windscreen then between the main dashboard moulding and the A-pillar trim and down near the door.
A thin cable can be tucked away there invisibly and quickly and if it's on the nearside can go straight into the glovebox to the bluetooth unit.

And I've checked that route in detail and there are no obstacles to getting the microphone cable (with plug already on) hidden all the way from behind the light panel into the glovebox.

HPsauce 8th April 2013 12:16 PM

All fitted, neat and tidy and working. The microphone supplied with the kit works reasonably OK tucked away behind the panel in the roof even though it's largely baffled as I've not oriented it very well.

I've ordered an OEM microphone from A8parts and will see whether that improves audio quality, though I think the main quality problem is really using a bluetooth-linked phone handset transmitting from inside the car without an external aerial.


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