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awolfinsheepsclothes 19th October 2013 06:15 PM

Help Ian
 
Hi I've just fitted a new aftermarket heads unit with a iso adapter kit of eBay and my front speaker aren't working! my question is this I can't seem to find the front speaker connector on the loom behind the head unit!
Have I pushed it out of view?
Or as its Bose do the front speakers run of the rear amp and I'm i looking for a connector not fitted to my car!
Do I need to run fresh speaker wire from the head unit?
Or is is it just that I've purchased a crap adapter kit ( I think so I've already had to sort out its permanent live feed)
Thanks in advance Dave

HPsauce 19th October 2013 07:56 PM

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What did you have before, an RNS-D with Bose?

If so, see the attached connector diagram; Bose would use the 4-channel Line Out connector which includes an "amp on" signal (not sure what it is though).

Note that the 20-pin connector covering CD/Display/LineOut comes in 2 versions. One is a single block, the other is splittable and typically blue/green/yellow.

PsYcHe 19th October 2013 09:23 PM

The permanent live thing is a common issue on aftermarket gear.

But as above.. if you've got Bose, then you'll need to re-jig the speaker connections to feed there.

awolfinsheepsclothes 20th October 2013 05:33 AM

Yes it's a rns-d and I've seen the pin out sticker on the rns-d that's what makes me think the cable has fallen back into the dash out of sight, I did fit it in the dark with a torch. I'll pull the side panel today and have another look, I think there are 4 multi plugs on the rns-d and I think I unpluged 4! But I've slept since then!! Cheers dave

ainarssems 20th October 2013 06:40 AM

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With Bose all speakers are driven form Bose amp, none directly from radio.

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...1&d=1382250169

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Connector C is actually three separate connectors dovetailed together. It may not be present at all - sometimes, only parts of it are present. It usually comes attached to the device it supports:

C1 - external amplifier or equaliser
Pin 1 - Line out left rear
Pin 2 - Line out right rear
Pin 3 - Line out ground
Pin 4 - Line out front left
Pin 5 - Line out front right
Pin 4 - +12v switched - maximum 150mA
C2 - remote control
Pin 7 - RXD
Pin 8 - TXD
Pin 9 - Chassis ground
Pin 10 - +12v switched - maximum 150mA
Pin 11 - Remote control in
Pin 12 - Remote control ground
C3 - CD changer
Pin 13 - CDC data in (bus)
Pin 14 - CDC data out
Pin 15 - CDC +12v permanent
Pin 16 - CDC +12v switched - maximum 300mA (+A)
Pin 17 - CDC data ground (+U)
Pin 18 - CDC audio frequency ground
Pin 19 - CDC audio frequency left
Pin 20 - CDC audio frequency right
Look at the connector C, looks like you got adapter kit for non Bose cars which only connects line-out for rear speakers and assumes front speakers will be driven directly from unit. You will need adapter kit specifically for Bose for all 4 outputs which connects all pins in C1.

You will probably need a kit that takes signal from speaker level output and connetcs it through resistors to amp as most aftermarket radios use 1.5V line-out but audi system 3.5V so if you run it from line-out it will be very quite.

Looks like this one should do the trick: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Radio-Adap...item19e3871780

awolfinsheepsclothes 20th October 2013 07:47 AM

Thanks that looks a bit more like it!

awolfinsheepsclothes 20th October 2013 08:04 PM

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Had a bit of a look today and just to check popped the old head unit back in to check the front speakers and the worked fine! looked at my red adapter and the front speaker line outs are missing. my kit is for rear bose only!!
Cheers dave

HPsauce 20th October 2013 08:08 PM

Problem identified, potentially solved. And no sign of Ian. +++

kal_ay 20th October 2013 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HPsauce (Post 63362)
Problem identified, potentially solved. And no sign of Ian. +++

He is probably busy unleashing the 450 horses under his right foot somewhere +++

IT 20th October 2013 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kal_ay (Post 63363)
He is probably busy unleashing the 450 horses under his right foot somewhere +++

harhar... :p

Actually, I've been on the train picking up a new car....

Its 4 rings, but sub 100 bhp (well sub), non quattro and got a handful of faults.

and I love it ;)

HPsauce 20th October 2013 09:48 PM

Like this maybe? http://www.play.com/Toys/Toys/4-/507...gDetails.html?

kal_ay 20th October 2013 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by IT (Post 63369)
harhar... :p

Actually, I've been on the train picking up a new car....

Its 4 rings, but sub 100 bhp (well sub), non quattro and got a handful of faults.

and I love it ;)

Do tell.

awolfinsheepsclothes 21st October 2013 09:44 PM

Thanks Ainarssems I've also found this kit

http://bit.ly/19VcF8G
Is it better? Will it also solve the lack of volume? Or will I need to run a pre amp?
This may be a stupid question but why don't the RCA's out of the head unit just go to the line in to the Bose amp? Different somehow?
Thanks dave

HPsauce 21st October 2013 09:50 PM

That is made by Connects2 who are a well-known brand; I'd research what they make as that eBay listing specifically says:
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Note: Use this lead when changing the stereo (and you have BOSE speakers fitted as standard) to a new stereo that has no RCA outputs (i.e. has speaker outputs only)
which suggests there's almost certainly a similar unit for RCA outputs. ;)

A question to that eBay seller would be a good start. :cool:

awolfinsheepsclothes 25th October 2013 10:37 PM

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I've fitted the new wiring adapter it's a connects2 CT53-AU04 and now have sound out of all the speakers, the kit is very good and very easy to fit. I've also had a facia plate laser cut, this is the first prototype and needs a little adjustment! I guessed the radius wrong and its not the final material (satin black acrylic) so just a little bit of tweaking to get it fitting perfectly


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