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HPsauce 26th November 2014 01:15 PM

Wanted? Thinking about 9-spoke 20" D2 S8 FE wheels
 
I guess you just get there eventually.....
Now I've got the winter wheels on I'm looking at refurbishing the summer ones (standard FL 18" Avus) and getting at least 2 new tyres, maybe 3 depending how I play the spare.

Which got me thinking - why not look for some 20's for next summer then move the winter tyres onto the FL18's leaving me a set of 5 allegedly still desirable PF Avus 18's to sell on with some fairly decent tyres too.

I see A8parts have a set of 4 on eBay but they look pretty rough round the rims, does anyone else have any available now or in the near future?

Also, for anyone who has them now, do you normally have a full set of 5 or is the spare something different?

The_Laird 26th November 2014 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by HPsauce (Post 85229)
Also, for anyone who has them now, do you normally have a full set of 5 or is the spare something different?

I have a full set of 5, both for the 20" and 18" wheels

HPsauce 26th November 2014 02:08 PM

So no problem with the spare wheel well? I wondered if the lower profile tyre might be a bit "squarer" so not fit properly.

tintin 26th November 2014 10:02 PM

I'm the same as Jim - full set of 5 on both the 18" winter set and 20" summer set (plus the original 20" diamond cut set for special events +++).

The fit for the 18" wheel is fine in the spare wheel well, since the overall wheel+tyre diameter is practically the same for both the 18s and 20s, due to the deeper sidewall on the 18" tyres, though the 20" is a slightly more "snug" fit.

HPsauce 26th November 2014 10:11 PM

Oh dear, 3 sets, I can't compete with that. :cool:
I can feel my wallet getting ready to open already, but does anyone have any for sale?

HPsauce 26th November 2014 10:26 PM

Can someone tell me what width the FE 20" wheels are and what the "standard" tyre size is?
(The closest 20" equivalent to 245/45 R18 would be 245/35 R20)

Lyons 26th November 2014 10:27 PM

I would maybe sell my set (of 4) from the D3 which are 9" wide if you'd be interested?

HPsauce 26th November 2014 10:45 PM

Are those the ones you were having refurbished maybe 6 months ago?
What Audi part number are they and would they fit OK - offset, etc.?

Goran 27th November 2014 11:10 AM

Didn't the Final Edition cars with 20" wheels have stronger (or different) arms?
I notice my car's previous owner had 20" FE wheels on a car that wasn't optioned for them and he changed the front arms in 2012 (it was a November 2001 model).

Or maybe it doesn't matter, front arms wear out anyway with time?

The_Laird 27th November 2014 11:53 AM

I'm not sure it really matters. My first A8 was a late 2002 A8 2.8 QS and it had 20" FE wheels fitted from new (according to the build sticker) and I don't suppose Audi changed the suspension arms for this. but I did come a cropper when I ordered a set of arms for the FE S8 as 2 of the arms were supposedly wrong.

But I'm pretty sure that it wasn't just S8s that were fitted with FE 20" wheels, let alone just the FE S8s.

Norretal 27th November 2014 12:38 PM

Andrew, I've got four 9 spoke 20" FE wheels with 275/35/20 Vredestiens on which have done around 2k miles since refurbishment (new tyres after refurb)and have been stored since I took them off my D2 a year ago.

Let me know if you're interested +++

ainarssems 27th November 2014 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Goran (Post 85271)
Didn't the Final Edition cars with 20" wheels have stronger (or different) arms?
I notice my car's previous owner had 20" FE wheels on a car that wasn't optioned for them and he changed the front arms in 2012 (it was a November 2001 model).

Or maybe it doesn't matter, front arms wear out anyway with time?

They do wear out anyway, usually it's the bushes that go first but on occasion ball joints might give up as well. The difference in arms for 20" factory wheels is bigger diameter taper joint on 1 of the bottom arms. I assume this is to protect aluminium hub from damage.

HPsauce 27th November 2014 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Norretal (Post 85276)
Let me know if you're interested +++

Interested of course, PM me your thoughts on price and post some pictures somewhere please.
Are they diamond-cut refurbished (as new?) or fully repainted? And what exact model/spec tyres?

mikes2 27th November 2014 04:07 PM

Standard tyre size was 255/35 ZR 20.

Rims were 20x8.5 for a D2

Adrian E 27th November 2014 06:44 PM

I'll post the full spec details later for both d2 and d3 fit if nobody else does :) am on route home from Birmingham at the moment

Basically d3 rim is 0.5" wider and a slightly larger tyre size. From memory the d3 rims fill the arches slightly better so I wouldn't rule out a d3 set as they're likely to be much newer/better condition

A diamond cut set will be fairly hard to find as only really a couple of places that can do the refurbs. It's easier to get them powder coated and painted which is what most do.

Can thoroughly recommend Michelin super sports for summer tyres if they come without :)

Adrian E 27th November 2014 09:16 PM

OK, precise wheel specs:

D2
8.5Jx20 ET45 4d0601025ae
255/35R20 97 ZR(Y) XL

D3
9Jx20 ET46 4e0601025af
275/35R20 102 ZR(Y) XL

I would say the extra width isn't a major issue.

Details on the fitting here:

http://www.willtheyfit.com/index.php...et2=46#content

Sticking out an extra 5mm will fill the front arches quite nicely, although the rears on mine (8.5") are spaced out 20mm!

The higher load index of the tyre intended for the D3 won't help the ride quality - if fitting new tyres to 9" rims on a D2 finding some in 97 load index would be beneficial. There's a 98 available for Super Sports

The change in rolling radius will help the gearing at motorway speeds, although not by very much!

roberto 28th November 2014 03:32 AM

mine are for sale too
 
http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/showthread.php?t=7859
http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/showthread.php?t=9082

Lyons 28th November 2014 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by HPsauce (Post 85260)
Are those the ones you were having refurbished maybe 6 months ago?

They are indeed. I had them done in a very, very light gunmetal.

Complete with new tyres that have maybe done 4000 miles.

I'd be looking £1,000.

I can get photos if interested.

HPsauce 28th November 2014 08:17 AM

Thanks folks, so far at least 3 sets of 4 seem to be around (Lyons, Norretal and Roberto), but if I'm reading it right they're all 9" D3 ones with wider tyres (275 vs 255) and one at least is still diamond cut. All seem to be just 4, not 5, or is that normal for D3 - spare different?

On the other hand, ideally I'm after 5 of the 8.5" D2 variety and last time I looked A8parts did actually have 5 of those in need of a refurb. I need to check out the options and put my thinking cap on.

This might have to wait until after Xmas, but given the time some of these have been available that doesn't seem to be a problem. Keep the options and information flowing. :D

HPsauce 29th November 2014 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Adrian E (Post 85296)
D2
8.5Jx20 ET45 4d0601025ae
255/35R20 97 ZR(Y) XL

Thanks, Adrian. Interesting that as for 8.5 wheels 255 is listed by tyre size guides as the maximum whereas 235 or 245 are considered normal.
Also 245/35R20 is almost exactly (within 1mm) the same as 245/45R18 whereas 255/35 is just over 1% bigger.

Does anyone use or have used 245/35R20?

ainarssems 29th November 2014 07:00 PM

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Does anyone use or have used 245/35R20?
I used for a while, they are long gone now, here they are when I sold them: http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/showthread.php?t=7781


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