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ChrisM 5th February 2015 07:50 PM

4.2tdi EPB fault/warning light
 
Hello all...

My newly acquired A8 has developed a parking brake fault ...

The EPB warning light is now permanently lit.

Also first thing in the morning the brakes feel like they're binding slightly for the first couple of minutes of driving (I'm now not applying the EPB)

I took it to a local garage that my partner's been using for years and he diagnosed a sticking caliper which he said needed replacing...

£240 plus fitting (2 hours) "plus any sensors if they're needed" I did ask him if the caliper could be taken off and freed up or recond
but he didn't want to do that ... I've found a place locallish that will do a basic recon for £30 and was wondering if anybody on here had gone down that route
as opposed to buying a replacement caliper ??

Also has anyone used one of the caliper repair kits that are available online ... What caliper maladies do they rectify and are they worth buying?

And finally!If I can't get it sorted it locally,Can anyone recommend a good Audi mechanic in the Notts /Derby/Leics area that I could get a second opinion from and that would sort the EPB for me?

Many thanks in advance

David's8 5th February 2015 08:31 PM

I guess thats the "troublesome electrical conundrum" as described in an advert for an '8 someone posted today. Well, being a D2 owner I dont have that problem but there WILL be some people on here who will be along to help soon. My advice is to hold fire until you get the normally excellent advice from the gurus on this forum. +++

and welcome, by the way!

PsYcHe 5th February 2015 09:40 PM

Sticky caliper can cause EPB issues.. I'd chance a recon for 30 quid.

You could also have some moisture in the EPB connector which might cause the motor to not wind back.

ChrisM 5th February 2015 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David's8 (Post 88543)
I guess thats the "troublesome electrical conundrum" as described in an advert for an '8 someone posted today. Well, being a D2 owner I dont have that problem but there WILL be some people on here who will be along to help soon. My advice is to hold fire until you get the normally excellent advice from the gurus on this forum. +++

and welcome, by the way!

Thanks for your reply David and the welcome!

ChrisM 5th February 2015 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PsYcHe (Post 88552)
Sticky caliper can cause EPB issues.. I'd chance a recon for 30 quid.

You could also have some moisture in the EPB connector which might cause the motor to not wind back.

Thanks for your advice PsYcHe

It would be great if it was moisture in the EPB connector! (I'll check that at the weekend)

Failing that,can an amateur spannerman get a caliper off ?
I read somewhere that the piston has to be wound back using some software to tell it to do so??
Would be a much more economical repair if I could do it though!

Delboy 6th February 2015 12:53 AM

To change the brake pads the caliper needs to be opened using software (vcds) but you would need the cable and a suitable windows laptop to do it.

But being as you are having trouble releasing the hand brake it's likely not to open anyway.

There should be a ikea style crank Allen key type tool in the tool set that can be used to wind the caliper open in the event of electrical failure.

I would have a go at doing that first when you check the electrical connector.

Do not at any time try and squeeze the piston back in like you would on a traditional caliper.

Good luck and welcome from me too.

PsYcHe 6th February 2015 07:38 AM

A standard EPB wind-back gadget works on the D3 too, so there's a good chance they have one of those.

I had a similar issue with my PF D3 where it wouldn't unwind one motor, popped the wheel off, checked the connector and it was full of crud.. a quick clean and away I went. Was great fun in 4" of snow :)

ChrisM 7th February 2015 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delboy (Post 88559)
To change the brake pads the caliper needs to be opened using software (vcds) but you would need the cable and a suitable windows laptop to do it.

But being as you are having trouble releasing the hand brake it's likely not to open anyway.

There should be a ikea style crank Allen key type tool in the tool set that can be used to wind the caliper open in the event of electrical failure.

I would have a go at doing that first when you check the electrical connector.

Do not at any time try and squeeze the piston back in like you would on a traditional caliper.

Good luck and welcome from me too.

Del,I checked the electrical connector to no avail ...
so I've decided to take it to a garage not too far from me that has been recommended who are able to do a proper diagnostic check.

Thank you for your advice and the welcome.

ChrisM 7th February 2015 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PsYcHe (Post 88568)
A standard EPB wind-back gadget works on the D3 too, so there's a good chance they have one of those.

I had a similar issue with my PF D3 where it wouldn't unwind one motor, popped the wheel off, checked the connector and it was full of crud.. a quick clean and away I went. Was great fun in 4" of snow :)

As per previous post PsYcHe,I've decided to take it to a garage that can do a proper diagnosis on it ...I'll post up how I got on.

Thanks again for your help and advice.

Oli18 8th February 2015 11:20 AM

Hi,

ChrisM - welcome to the forum! Hope you get your EPB fault sorted and sorry to jump on your thread.

I get an EPB fault about 1x a month - a few apply and release movements of the EPB and it goes away but given that people are talking about the connections needing cleaning i just wondered if it's easy to get to without taking the wheel of i.e. with some ramps?

Should one clean it with WD40? Silicone spray? Other?

Either way - i'm adding it to my list of regular maintenance items.

ChrisM 9th February 2015 01:34 PM

Thanks for the welcome and good wishes re my EPB Oli...

Booked car in for Friday for a scan ... The (recommended) garage said it sounds like the caliper and all they would do is replace it ... I always used to have my calipers refurbed,all be it on less complicated stuff but most garages don't seem interested in getting an old part working anymore .... Oh well ...Rant over! :)

Architex_mA8tey 9th February 2015 01:59 PM

Hi Chris
have you seen THIS on ebay? not sure how the price compares? +++

ChrisM 16th February 2015 10:40 AM

Just an update Re my EPB issues ...

The garage did a VCDS diagnosis ...
It came up with lots of faults that were cleared apart from 2,which were the EPB (of course) and the main control unit that he couldn't get to the bottom of.... He wanted to put it on an older Audi diagnostic check to delve deeper into the control unit issue when they have the car back in on the 25th to sort the parking brake out,they said it might not need a new caliper which would be good news...apparently he thought all the fault codes were due to the OEM phone equipment which is no longer used but hadn't been shut down on the computer.
Also,thanks for the heads up Re the caliper on EBay Architex mA8tey ... Much appreciated.


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