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HPsauce 19th February 2015 10:26 AM

Odd reverse dip mirror behaviour
 
Can anyone explain this and point to a fix?

I rarely use the auto-dipping nearside mirror function, but today noticed it wasn't working properly. This was first seen while the garage were using the spare key which isn't programmed to any memory button. But it's the same on the normal key.

On selecting reverse it dips, but doesn't return to normal. Reverse again it dips further, and so on.
The normal adjustments all work, up down left and right. So I can just put it back. :Confused:

Any thoughts?

PsYcHe 19th February 2015 12:53 PM

My D2 did that too... you'd have to manually put it back after dipping sometimes..

Adrian E 19th February 2015 01:04 PM

There was some suggestion removing the mirror glass and cleaning some contacts can influence behaviour of the dipping function.

Mine had a meltdown after the new mirror bodies were fitted, but some perseverance with setting it back to normal and reinstating the memory setting seemed to sort it and it's never happened again.

If you stick it in reverse it should dip with the mirror control set to L, and either moving out of R or moving the mirror adjuster to off or R should also see it return to the original position.

You always see mirror modules for sale, but not sure I've ever known one actually fail?! You'd expect a fault code if it did....

HPsauce 19th February 2015 02:51 PM

Yes, I know how it is "supposed" to work, but does anyone know what the actual mechanism is?

If, for example, it's a separate set of contacts inside the mirror mechanism, that could be susceptible to damp/dirt.
Or is it just a timer spinning the relevant motor for set time? That seems unlikely though.

I don't use mine much, usually turning the control to the central position when "unfurling", but it has always worked before today. Pretty cold and damp out.....

moltuae 19th February 2015 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HPsauce (Post 89290)
Can anyone explain this and point to a fix?

I rarely use the auto-dipping nearside mirror function, but today noticed it wasn't working properly. This was first seen while the garage were using the spare key which isn't programmed to any memory button. But it's the same on the normal key.

On selecting reverse it dips, but doesn't return to normal. Reverse again it dips further, and so on.
The normal adjustments all work, up down left and right. So I can just put it back. :Confused:

Any thoughts?

Mine occasionally does this, or 'forgets' to move back up.

I get the impression it calculates the mirror's position through a simple timing procedure, rather than some sort of feedback arrangement, since it doesn't seem to be aware of the absolute angle of the mirror.

At least that's the way it seems because I find that I can 'resynchronise' things by moving the mirror back up then, using the memory seats button, store the new mirror position by over-writing the appropriate memory. After doing that, it usually works perfectly again for a while. I haven't confirmed the cause, if any, but I suspect it could be getting nudged at the drive-through car wash.

brasiliangringo 19th February 2015 07:22 PM

I cant comment on the D2 but i serviced a 2009 A8 the other week which had limited mirror movement, so i removed the glass, removed the unit which controls angle, a good old blast of WD40 and reinstalled and all good.

HPsauce 20th February 2015 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by moltuae (Post 89342)
Mine occasionally does this, or 'forgets' to move back up.

This morning it's working perfectly. :Confused:

The_Laird 20th February 2015 07:56 AM

Mine does just the same. Sometimes it's fine but occasionally it malfunctions as yours does. But I hardly ever use it, so it's not really an issue.

Norretal 20th February 2015 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by moltuae (Post 89342)
but I suspect it could be getting nudged at the drive-through car wash.

I'm surprised the "OCD Crew" haven't been all over this Mark :)

Glad it's working as normal HP, I found a 2012 thread about the same problem but you'd made several comments on the issue so guessed you were well aware of it

briang9 20th February 2015 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Laird (Post 89374)
Mine does just the same. Sometimes it's fine but occasionally it malfunctions as yours does. But I hardly ever use it, so it's not really an issue.

mine does it as well, but like Jim I ignore it, looks like it becomes a feature as they get older:(

Adrian E 20th February 2015 08:30 AM

Would explain why mine has worked perfectly since the mirror body was replaced....

moltuae 20th February 2015 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Norretal (Post 89375)
I'm surprised the "OCD Crew" haven't been all over this Mark :)

:lol:

To be fair, I usually treat it to IMO/ARC's finest, which does a half decent job.

I do take it to hand car washes (when I have more time) to get the wheels more thoroughly cleaned, but I'm usually in too much of a rush to go to hand car washes every time. Anyway (if Fifth Gear's findings are to be believed), contrary to popular belief, the likelihood of paint scratches is greater at the hand car washes than automatic ones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZjWkB_q2lE

The_Laird 20th February 2015 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by moltuae (Post 89384)
:lol:



To be fair, I usually treat it to IMO/ARC's finest, which does a half decent job.

I do take it to hand car washes (when I have more time) to get the wheels more thoroughly cleaned, but I'm usually in too much of a rush to go to hand car washes every time. Anyway (if Fifth Gear's findings are to be believed), contrary to popular belief, the likelihood of paint scratches is greater at the hand car washes than automatic ones.

OCD crew reporting for duty! :D

I'd tend to agree - all those gritty sponges at a hand car wash must be pretty bad for the paint.

I'd like to take mine to a car wash for an underbody wash after they've stopped putting all the salt and cr*p on the roads, but having had it 'detailed' a couple of times, I daren't!

I was planning to phone my learest arc/imo car wash to ask if they can programme it not to use the brushes.

But I certainly won't get the wheels cleaned there. I have no ideas what they use, but when I used to use them, my alloys suffered big time.

ainarssems 20th February 2015 09:41 AM

Do automatic car washes and fixed aerial go together? I would like to wash underside of mine in automatic car wash but never been to one in S8. Have used them couple of times in previous cars that had telescopic aerials.

moltuae 20th February 2015 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ainarssems (Post 89388)
Do automatic car washes and fixed aerial go together?

I usually just unscrew and remove my aerial.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Laird (Post 89386)
But I certainly won't get the wheels cleaned there. I have no ideas what they use, but when I used to use them, my alloys suffered big time.

Other than not getting my alloys spotlessly clean, I've never had any problems. I think what they use varies a little from site to site though.

PsYcHe 20th February 2015 10:46 AM

Surprised no one else has gone with the age related droop gag :)

The_Laird 20th February 2015 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by psyche (Post 89397)
surprised no one else has gone with the age related droop gag :)

lol! +++

The_Laird 20th February 2015 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Laird (Post 89386)
I was planning to phone my learest arc/imo car wash to ask if they can programme it not to use the brushes.

I called them, and they can't (at least that's what I think he said - strong Dumbarton accent!).

Architex_mA8tey 20th February 2015 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Laird (Post 89419)
I called them, and they can't (at least that's what I think he said - strong Dumbarton accent!).

did he say "she cannae dae it captain - she woont tek it on the dilithium crystals"

moltuae 20th February 2015 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by architex_ma8tey (Post 89420)
did he say "she cannae dae it captain - she woont tek it on the dilithium crystals"

:lol:

RanjS8 4th March 2015 05:51 PM

mirror dipping issue on reverse
 
Hey guys

There is something called the mirror control module that sits on the driverside. It near where the driver seat belt mechanism is fixed. It goes faulty with time and so the auto dipping mechanism fails.

Replace it and the mirror will turn as normal.


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