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Zip 1st December 2014 10:27 AM

Loud whining noise behind centre dash / back of engine bay?
 
All,

About 3 days ago, I started to get a rhythmic highish pitched, and loud, whining noise behind the central dash. It's constant, kicking in a few seconds after engine start.

It is not linked to engine speed or HVAC blower motor speed at all. Just a constant, and bloody annoying, noise. On cruise control somewhere north of the national speed limit, with radio on, it's still very prominent.

What's down at the back of the engine that could be making that? Anything down there that could be rubbing / bearings going? Anything under the dash doing the same?:Confused:

Very odd.

Thanks in advance,
Z

HPsauce 1st December 2014 11:41 AM

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99% auxiliary coolant pump motor.
Not sure how vital they are in D3's but I've had to "kill" them in both of my D2's with minimal effects other than quiet..

D3 looks like this, pump motor on the left:

Zip 1st December 2014 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPsauce (Post 85447)
99% auxiliary coolant pump motor.
Not sure how vital they are in D3's but I've had to "kill" them in both of my D2's with minimal effects other than quiet..

D3 looks like this, pump motor on the left:

I assume you mean by "kill" that the car will happily operate without them...?? Do they have their own fuse? Where are they - easily accessible?? Why is there an auxiliary pump at all???

questions questions questions.....:-(

Zip

HPsauce 1st December 2014 01:59 PM

Used to supplement to flow of coolant into the HVAC for cabin heating and required for the "rest" function to work.
On a D2 you just press the "rest" button (ventilation/heating with engine off) and if it's that pump you'll hear it. On D3's I think you operate it a bit differently, but that's the acid test.

Don't know about D3, but again on D2 without it it takes a little longer on cold days to warm the cabin as the coolant flow is dictated by the main engine water pump and the valves in that unit; no extra diversion power for flow via the HVAC due to the pump and probably a bit of a blockage.

Never been a problem though.

On PF D2 the plug on the flylead for the pump is very accessible under the bonnet, on FL D2 I just traced the relevant wires to cut, though later found the likely plug under the central air intake meshed cover. D3 no idea where the pump leads run or how accessible they are.

Zip 1st December 2014 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPsauce (Post 85456)
Used to supplement to flow of coolant into the HVAC for cabin heating and required for the "rest" function to work.
On a D2 you just press the "rest" button (ventilation/heating with engine off) and if it's that pump you'll hear it. On D3's I think you operate it a bit differently, but that's the acid test.

Don't know about D3, but again on D2 without it it takes a little longer on cold days to warm the cabin as the coolant flow is dictated by the main engine water pump and the valves in that unit; no extra diversion power for flow via the HVAC due to the pump and probably a bit of a blockage.

Never been a problem though.

On PF D2 the plug on the flylead for the pump is very accessible under the bonnet, on FL D2 I just traced the relevant wires to cut, though later found the likely plug under the central air intake meshed cover. D3 no idea where the pump leads run or how accessible they are.

Thanks HP - found your thread from this time last year.

Looks like you can replace just the pump, and not the valves themselves...? Seen our sponsors are selling the valve assembly independent of the pump. I'll check the "rest" function later.

Can I get the motor off through the back of the glove box, as IT suggests? Need to stop this noise...
Z

Zip 2nd December 2014 01:35 PM

OK - confirmed it is the pump doing the "rest" test last night. Am I hearing the bearings on the impellor on the pump screaming, or the motor itself...? I presume if it's on the impellor, the whole lot needs swapping?

Either way, anyone had the joy, or worked out how to replace it?

Thanks for your advice in advance!

Z

Zip 23rd December 2014 11:44 AM

Any more advice on this please? How do I get to it / swap it out? Driving me mad.:mad:

Zip

HPsauce 23rd December 2014 11:50 AM

Just disconnect it as I pointed out (and you quoted) ;)

johnny_quattro 24th December 2014 03:48 PM

See my pics re: noise
 
http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/showthrea...6722#post56722

I took some photos after experiencing the same loud(ish) noise. Hopefully this helps.

Cheers,
John G

HPsauce 26th December 2014 08:34 PM

Funny thing is my PF S8 had the connector there, but the FL didn't so I cut the wires (and sealed appropriately).
Later found what was "probably" the relevant connector under the central air intake mesh.


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