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I made no reference at all to camshaft timing and completely agree that short cuts with this procedure and not using the correct tools is simply asking for trouble.

As for manufacture spending millions on research and development, of course they do, and yet they still get it wrong sometimes.

I have already conceded that in the future I will use the crank pin to hold the crank. This is not because the manual says so but because it has been tried and tested by someone with much more experience of working on these cars then me (MJ).

That surely is the point of this forum. Not degenerative by any means. As long as we are polite than we all benefit from the exchange of ideas and learn from these exchanges.