well the system works again now as normal no problems no idea what was up with it but there was water in the radio reciver, i did a loop on the fiber optic using my home cinema fiberoptic for the dolby 7.1 and it booted up
re-instated the box in the boot and its all working again
very strange
but will have to look into why my voice control is not there maybe i can buy the expantion only and slot it into my tuner ?
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