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22nd June 2011, 06:30 PM
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help with changing discs please
so i have 500quids worth of new brembos sat in the hall and i cant do nothing with them i tryed all day yesterday to remove the calipers so i can get the old disc off and new ones on but there are 2 18mm bolts that hold the carrier on and i cant remove them can any one help me or tell me how its done and if im going about it the wrong way as i have changed lots of discs in the past on different cars and im a bit stumped and wandering if there is any other way or if i maybe need a new set of hubs they are dam tight !!!!
oh its a 40valve 4.2 facelift A8 with twin pot lucas calipers 
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22nd June 2011, 06:55 PM
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You can try the usual stuff- heat, freeze, WD40 and long breaker bar
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22nd June 2011, 07:23 PM
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Lets sort out trhe brakes you have firat. Lucas never did brakes for the FL 8s. They are either Teves, Brembo or Girling (and before anyone points out that Lucas and Girling are the same company........
 )These are the Girlings  Bolt 11 is the blighter. M14x1.5 with and 18mm socket. Done up to 190Nm. I've never played with these but if they are 2 pot and they look it then they must be a sliding caliper which means there is a caliper holder and a caliper and you can take them apart without removing bolt 11. The caliper must be able to slide on the caliper carrier.
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22nd June 2011, 07:46 PM
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that looks like the blighter number 11 and they are solid even the garage could not get them off and they sed that i may need new hubs is there a way to get the calliper off without taking off the number 11 bolts all i need is some clearance to get the disc off and a new on on changing the pads is child's play ??
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#5
22nd June 2011, 08:08 PM
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not wanting to hijack this thread but do you have a picture of the other types? mine are twin pots with 4 pads but has weights on it not the clip, not found any online information on any website for this type on the A8....theres info on clip type or the single pot twin pad type but not the weight type......
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#6
22nd June 2011, 08:12 PM
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#8
22nd June 2011, 08:36 PM
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Its worth noting that early FL's had the PF steel hubs and PF brake setup if that makes any difference.....
Most FL have ally hubs and the newer brake setup. Its likely yours has the old PF setup....
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#10
23rd June 2011, 09:06 AM
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They do sound like a set from an early PF because thats the type i have on mine. Weights on the pads, no clip over the top but there is a spring in each outside pad to the caliper. Those bolts are tight and they have some sort of threadlocker on them too. I used an old ratchet and 2lb hammer and hit it HARD.
Now just to confuse the issue a bit more, The calipers took off my A had Lucas 43 embosses in them (they rattled) so i put calipers form an S on. befor i fitted them i cleaned then up and painted them, they had Lucas 43 emossed in them also. When i fitted them to the car my discs were too small so the discs on an S are bigger than the A but have a cliper that is exatly the same but different. Pads hoever are the same for both discs and calipers.Also if you do manage to get those bolts out, make sure you do them up hard or with a torque wrench as they will come loose. As i found out when driving to the anual meet 
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