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Old 12th August 2014, 09:52 AM
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Guys, I need your advice.

I am tired of buying a new set of tyres every year, well, this year I may have to buy at least second pair for the year.

I know camber can affect the inner tyre wear, but as you can see from the thread across the tyre I really don't do thousands and thousands of miles a year.

Front is lowered -15mm from the stock

Rear is lowered -10mm from the stock

I drive more in dynamic than comfort, but this year difference between two modes isn't that huge as I did a lot of ''family runs''

I am not the slowest driver around the corners or roundabouts but I am a big supporter of Greener Planet thats why I'm always looking for the best racing line, as straight as possible, always hitting each apex = less breaking=less unnecessary acceleration=less CO2

Anyway, there is only 5mm difference on the suspension between rear and front, but at the front there is no tyre left at all on the inner side at the front.

Plenty of tyre left across the width.

Is that due to driving style and lowered suspension??

It's worth mentioning that I've had all upper suspension arms at the front changed just 2months as they were not good. I've got these tyres for less than 6months I think, but arms were f***ed before that, its just took me a long time to realize that this annoying sound I was experiencing were the actual arms (if you remember my thread about possible steering rack squeak)

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PS. I'm thinking about swapping fronts and rears, but is that safe to have tyres with such a inner wear at the rear, or even have them on the car at all???

Tyres are the Toyo Proxes T1 Sport, dual compound, harder on the inside, softer on the outside from what I know
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Old 12th August 2014, 09:55 AM
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Forgot to add, I've done about 1500miles on the motorway in Dynamic on them plus driving around Tyndrum (Annual Meet) in Dynamic all weekend, but thats nothing I think, but may be I'm wrong
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Old 12th August 2014, 10:04 AM
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I may be wrong, but if you lower the suspension, will that not push the bottom of the tyre out, causing worse wear on the inside, so you need to compensate with bringing them in further, so the standard readings won't work?
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Old 12th August 2014, 10:28 AM
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4 wheel alignment in dynamic mode.

That should sort out your camber, toe and all the other items.

If you had it done in comfort or lift and then drive in dynamic most, the tow/camber would be wrong.
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Old 12th August 2014, 12:34 PM
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Lowering car will certainly increase tyre wear on the inside. Another thing is that could affect is that TOE constant S is not always adjusted correctly when doing wheel alignment or after changing track rod ends. They just crank up bolt 'B' all the way thinking it'e there for securing not for adjustment.

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Old 12th August 2014, 02:27 PM
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Richard, Scott, Ainar, Thank You
I think thats what I'm going to do.
Do you recon any good tyre shop will be able to do, I dont think there is much difference between an A8 and passat???

I do like the negative camber and since lowering the car I've experienced better cornering

How about that wear, is it safe to drive like that after correcting this issue??

Is it safe to put them at the rear axle???

And if lowering is the issue, why rears are evenly worn even if the rear was lowered as well???
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Its safe, you'll be fine.

but if you have negative camber you will always have that ware.

You want to go to a place that has 4 wheel laser alignment.
GuppaP down here has it and does a very good.

Passat?
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Its safe, you'll be fine.

but if you have negative camber you will always have that ware.

You want to go to a place that has 4 wheel laser alignment.
GuppaP down here has it and does a very good.

Passat?
So alignment is to set the toe only, not the camber obviously?!?!

Is it possible to change the camber on 8s after lowering suspension??

Passat: I just wonder if alignment is it way more complicated than passat because of the air suspension or something???

Another question, I'm not an expert, but from my understanding if the toe is wrong then shouldn't I have excessive wear on at least 1/3-1/2 of the width because mine is just by the edge????
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Old 12th August 2014, 04:43 PM
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4 wheel alignment does it all.
I use pro tyre and they give a nice little print out to see what happened.

Any tyre ware it's always worth getting the tracking done first and then after any suspension work or sub frame work
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Guys, once again thank you for your help.

I'm booked in for tomorrow with this guys so hopefully I will have my inner wear sorted for good.
http://www.wheelpoweralignment.co.uk/

Thank you once again
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