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My car won't start :(
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Very frustrated at the moment. My car won't start. Ran fine this morning. Went to mum's to help her out. Got back home, parked the car across the road because next door is having new driveway and fence put in. Went to start car an hour and a half later and it won't start. Can't vag com until I sort a laptop that has battery power, perhaps tomorrow afternoon. Symptoms: Nearly started first couple of times, now just cranks with no sign of life. Strong crank. Can't smell fuel. Yesterday the ASR and CAT light came on and the car ran roughly. So I shut it off straight away. ASR light went off, CAT light stayed on. Went a couple hundred metres. Turned car off, restarted and CAT light went out. Related to my problem? Please suggest where to start looking / what to start looking at. Thanks.
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Sounds like possibly a fuel pump.
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Thanks for your reply. Yes, that is what I have been reading in the internet. Do you know if Vag Com will indicate this in some way?
What would be the best way to check for this cause on the '98 D2 S8? Thanks again.
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And possibly just the old pump seating/sealing issue.
In which case, how much fuel is in the tank? If it's less than half full, might be worth adding a gallon or two to see if it runs. I could be wrong but I think you should be able to hear the fuel pump run (briefly) when you turn the ignition on. Might need to stick your head in the boot to hear it, while someone turns the ignition on for you.
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Thanks for that tip! The blood has gone to my head and I am not thinking properly. I will have a listen in the boot. Is that the usual failure mode for the pump - does not run?
The petrol tank is full minus 60km. Is there somewhere under the hood that I can unbolt to check for fuel? Can I spray something somewhere to simulate fuel delivery? Thanks again for everyone's help. Is that easy to check or inspect visually?
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1998 D2 S8 Jaspis Green Last edited by C4R 100N; 28th February 2020 at 08:41 AM. |
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If you enjoy lying in the boot, contorted and getting high on petrol fumes, it's a wonderful job. Otherwise it's a bloody awful job to do.
It's easy to determine if that's the problem though ... just put a few more gallons of fuel in. And if that does turn out to be the problem, the workaround is to keep half a tank or more of fuel in the car at all times. I drove mine like that for a few years. It can be fixed but I think there's probably a knack to it. After a few failed attempts (by myself and 2 different mechanics) I just gave up and replaced the entire tank.
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So extremely unlikely it's the seating problem.
(Unless that 60km involved the most aggressive driving imaginable! )
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2003 D2 FL S8. Irish Green Pearl/Beige. Solar sunroof, auto-dim mirrors, electric rear seat functions and extended leather. Ski hatch retrofit. Aftermarket reversing camera. DVB-T and XCarlink now removed as redundant. 2016 Volvo V40 T5 Cross Country (4WD) with ALL the toys including adaptive cruise etc. etc. Osmium Grey with Blonde/Charcoal leather interior. Polestar performance "optimisation". (Even rarer than a D2 S8!) Oh, and a brand new engine at just under 30,000 miles on the factory one! Finally: gone, but not forgotten..... 1998 D2 PF S8. Agate Grey/Platinum. Every option (I think) except electric rear seats, Tiptronic steering wheel, ski hatch, towbar & dimming door mirrors. e.g. Cruise control, NavPlus/TV, Bose, GSM, Xenons, Solar roof, Parking sensors, Alcantara/leather everywhere of course. (internal dimming mirror added later) 1998 (very early) Ford Focus 1.8 Zetec; ABS/TCS, Heated screen/mirrors, Aircon. Added Auto-dim mirror, Leather seats, Trip computer, Cruise control, OEM Ford SatNav with CD changer. And before that a lot of Rover 800s, a few oddities, a lovely Triumph Dolomite 1850HL with Overdrive and way back in my schooldays an Austin Seven aka Mini 850! |
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I have also read that I can squirt starting fluid somewhere and possibly get the car to start, so that would be a bonus right now. Another thing that I have just read is that I can reverse the electrical connection at the terminals on the fuel pump to make it run backwards for a second or two, and that *may* unjam the pump, should the failure be due to a certain commutator problem. Quote:
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Thanks for discounting the seating problem for me. I promise that I was only driving aggressively just the once up a lovely twisty hill for no more than 30 seconds! Otherwise, sedate city driving in traffic I am afraid.
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I don't know, I'm sure I could use up half a tank in 60km if I tried
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Mark ------------------------------------------------------ 2002 FE S8 Ebony Black Pearl ------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------ Cars Owned: The Tesla Era: 2020 Model S Performance Ludicrous+ (present) (Black, with all black premium interior and carbon fibre décor, 21" sonic carbon twin turbine wheels and FSD capability) The Audi Era: '97 A8 4.2 (Ming Blue) --> '96 A8 4.2 QS (Dark Green) --> '02 FE S8 (present) The Citroen Era: '84 BX 1.6 RS --> '89 BX 1.9 DTR Turbo --> '94 XM 2.0L Turbo --> '96 XM 2.0L Turbo Exclusive --> '00 Xantia Activa 2.0L Turbo The Banger Era: '76 1.2L Lada VAZ-2101 (Ruski Fiat 124) --> '80 1.7L Morris Ital HL, finished in Ermine White and Rust |
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