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Old 14th April 2009, 06:59 AM
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And how teh heck are young people going to afford to get on teh road. a lot can't afford 2K for a car and all teh sub 2K ones now will be seen as worth more just because ofthis crazy scheme..

Then you have the classic aspect, how many moggie thous, MGBs, midgets, Spitfires, etc would be left now if people had dome this years ago. Look at the mx5s knocking around lots sub 2K. Are we saying we don't want a classic car scene?

Then there is the BIGGY..... Environmental Aspect of this STUPID scheme.

The VAST majority of the emissions a car produces during its e2e lifetime is in manufacture and 'recycling'. By shortening the useful like of a car is just about the worst thing you can do for the environment. Use em till they fall to pieces then putting them in scrap yards w here they can be stripped by other owners for all parts worth absolutely anything to keep other going is just about as perfect as it gets from an environment perspective.

Muppets teh lot of em
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Old 16th April 2009, 03:51 PM
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At the same time they are developing a 5k loan against getting a rediculous electric car.
the government has lost the plot and is out to try and win votes, not save the world
Scrappage isn't a bad idea, its only an extension of many dealers that will give you 1k off in exchange for your MOT failure, no matter what the condition.
Personally, if I was getting a new car, it won't be a 40kplus one on my salary, so anything I can put towards it is a bonus, and if that is a guaranteed 2k, rather than haggling with a dealer for £1300 ish for my 8, then yes I would take advantage.
I am not condeming my 8 to the grave, but its something for nothing at the end of the day, unless the car market miraculously recovers and my 8 is worth more than a decent LCD TV!
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Old 19th November 2009, 11:33 PM
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Its win win for the treasury......
think of the VAT and other taxes they're fleecing you for, far outweighs the scrappage, of which the manufacturer contributes to....

and if you buy a half decent car, you'll fall foul of their ill researched dogma tax the VED

I fully agree that the 'greenest' car is the old one that is well maintained and kept running, after all what is going to happen to all the toxic chemicals and heavy metals in the inevitably horrendously expensive knackered batteries, or for that matter where are the raw materials going to come from, before i even begin a rant about what makes the electricity...... coal, oil, the inefficiency of the energy conversion and the losses in transmission by emf, heat, induction, resistance etc, before it even gets to the plug....
and the HSE nightmare when your neighbour trips over your lead to your toyota pious and maims him/ herself and consequently issues litigation against you......


Call me a cynic, but but it seems that latter day politics is all about headline grabbing, soundbites distraction and obfuscation.

Well...... that's me off the soapbox (for the while) apologies for the rant...
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Old 20th November 2009, 07:54 AM
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Some of the cars which are being scrapped are just too good to be scrapped
Seen pictures of one owner extremely low mileage, A1 condition Minis, Rovers, Fords etc being scrapped - what a waste

Like said before, this is more for votes and to keep bums in jobs than anything to do with the environment....
How many times has it been proved that keeping a banger on the road is better for the environment than building a new car etc - makes my blood boil
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