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#12
14th March 2012, 10:39 PM
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Sudden deceleration could be responsible (kills plenty of motorcyclists), terrible tragedy, I would tend to agree with HPSauce on the idea of defective road/ tunnel design playing a part in this awful event.
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#13
15th March 2012, 08:19 AM
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Listened to Jeremy Vine yesterday and a few callers were on saying how that tunnel has those concrete bits sticking out with no arnco or other protection. If it had some Arnco, then chances are most of those kids would be alive. As Night Train said, if the bus hit it at any speed, then given the shape, it would just stop suddenly where a car might spin out.
And in a horrid irony, that concrete post protects a safety area!
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15th March 2012, 12:45 PM
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French TV is a lot less squeamish about things like this [including suicide bombers and the like] Clearly a bad piece of tunnel design to allow the swerving bus [tyre blowout?] to hit the edge of the emergency lay-by as a full frontal impact. We hear that all passengers were belted but that all the seats concertina-d forwards. The pictures of the bus showed what otherwise appeared to be survivable.
Maybe we should all travel in rearward facing seats like the military aircraft, and otherwise sit towards the back of the bus/plane
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#15
15th March 2012, 08:29 PM
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Thats terrible, if the tunnel had been designed better, ie, with a fence, or no square-on wall, this would not have happened.
I have been through a few Swiss tunnels, they are scary places, some of them go on forever. I much prefer going round them and looking at the scenery.
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#16
15th March 2012, 08:44 PM
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They had photos of the school children that passed in the Daily Mail today. I really wish they hadn't put the photos on there, very sad. I can't begin to imagine how the parents must be feeling. When I have kids, I won't let them have powerful or unsafe cars, cases like these aren't very common but I wouldn't even want them going abroad without me now, on every school coach trip I've been on - I don't remeber the coaches having seatbelts, the last would have been around 2005-6. I know most of that is rich coming from me because I've been going abroad alone and driving big powerful cars from the day I passed my test, I won't tell them that.
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#17
15th March 2012, 08:51 PM
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You cant wrap them in cotton wool, and you cant predict when or how tragedy might strike. Crossing the road for school, falling down the stairs, or on a bus returning from skiing in the alps.
Its small consolation I know, but at least it was the return journey, and looking at the blog snippits in the news, their last few days were good fun.
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#18
16th March 2012, 06:26 AM
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Being a biker gives lots of skills a car driver will not pick up. They are all in their 30s now, married with kids of their own saying 'my kids won't do the stuff I did' but they probably will  I'm sure the Swiss are very embarrassed with this and will get to the bottom of this. Work will be done in all their tunnels to sort these areas very soon. Stew
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