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Old 21st August 2013, 09:43 AM
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Maybe for storage rather than use? Mind you I think there's a maximum age a tyre can be before it can be sold as 'new' these days

Scuttles off to Michelin web site to get correct tyre fitment and start tyre shopping.....looks like I'm getting a pair of tyres for my 40th in a few weeks time
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Old 21st August 2013, 10:18 AM
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Well that was a painful discussion with Michelin technical - they are suggesting I shouldn't run part worn Pilot Sport with a new pair of Super Sports.

Not entirely clear if that's because of the difference in construction having a dynamic effect on rolling radius that's enough to cause problems, or just because the handling might feel a bit strange. Person I spoke to wasn't really able to justify reasons to my satisfaction.

The money tree hasn't sprouted recently and there's a pretty marked difference in tread depth to the point I wouldn't want to bin what I have. If I won the lottery this weekend it wouldn't be an issue as I could do with replacing the original spare on age grounds.....

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Old 21st August 2013, 10:38 AM
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So are they suggesting that Super Sports can only be bought in 4's? as you could have a pair of half worn Pilot Sports on he rear and need a pair for the front but as you can't run part worns with new you need 4???

You should have told him: I'll have to buy a pair of Goodyear's in that case and then another pair when the rears wear out.
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Old 21st August 2013, 02:59 PM
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Well that was a painful discussion with Michelin technical - they are suggesting I shouldn't run part worn Pilot Sport with a new pair of Super Sports.

Not entirely clear if that's because of the difference in construction having a dynamic effect on rolling radius that's enough to cause problems, or just because the handling might feel a bit strange. Person I spoke to wasn't really able to justify reasons to my satisfaction.

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Sounds like tosh to me...especially given the lack of a logical explanation. If it helps, I've been running with a pair of Super Sports (front) with PS2's (rear) for both this summer (since June, I think) and last autumn before i swapped onto my 18" winter wheels. They've probably done around £5k miles, with no adverse effects - though they are, of course, performing better than the previous PS2's that I had on the front before.
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Old 21st August 2013, 04:07 PM
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Sounds like tosh to me...especially given the lack of a logical explanation. If it helps, I've been running with a pair of Super Sports (front) with PS2's (rear) for both this summer (since June, I think) and last autumn before i swapped onto my 18" winter wheels. They've probably done around £5k miles, with no adverse effects - though they are, of course, performing better than the previous PS2's that I had on the front before.
They are probably just covering their @sses. If they told it's fine it would be just matter of time until somebody crashed, got 'experts' conclusion that accident was caused by different level of grip between tyres and sued them be it individual, insurance company or corporation. That could be very costly for them so it's safer just to tell not to mix tyres.
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Old 21st August 2013, 04:23 PM
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They are probably just covering their @sses. If they told it's fine it would be just matter of time until somebody crashed, got 'experts' conclusion that accident was caused by different level of grip between tyres and sued them be it individual, insurance company or corporation. That could be very costly for them so it's safer just to tell not to mix tyres.
Very true - if the bloke had said to me that grip level will be quite different so may effect handling balance I'd be happy to take them at their word. It's not like I drive the car to the limits of its grip in any case!

Apparently the 20s are on back order from France so been advised to order early otherwise I may be waiting a very long time for them. Will see if it passes MOT in a couple of weeks and decide then if I need to get rhem ordered. May find myself off the road for a few weeks if it fails on tyres!
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Old 22nd August 2013, 05:53 AM
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Well that was a painful discussion with Michelin technical - they are suggesting I shouldn't run part worn Pilot Sport with a new pair of Super Sports.
I would look around for a single new or quality part worn Pilot Sport then and that will give you a bit of "value" from the spare
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Old 22nd August 2013, 07:54 AM
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Unfortunately the spare is the original Pilot Sport from 2002 (think it's directional?) - it's way too old to run on the car, but adequate as an emergency spare as it has bags of tread and no evidence of ageing. It will be as hard as nails and offer less grip, however. Better than a spacesaver but ideally the spare wants flogging on ebay as a nearly new tyre lol

If cost wasn't an issue I'd fit 4 new Super Sport and put the best of the 2 front tyres as the spare and keep/sell the other, binning the 11 year old tyre and the 2 worn out rears.

I haven't been able to find prices lower than £260 per tyre yet.....
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Old 22nd August 2013, 09:36 AM
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Is there any place in the UK which pays for scrap tyres?
Its a awful lot of material to give away, about 12kg, and I'm sure it gets re-used one way or another, so they should really pay for it.

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http://www.mtrbristol.co.uk/
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Can't see anywhere that it says they buy tyres. Only: ' Collect tyres, buy scrap cars for cash and bale waste tyres'

Local tyre places here charge between £0.50-5.00 for tyre disposal.
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