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Old 20th December 2012, 05:30 PM
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Sounds like I may have made an OK decision about mine then after all, I just couldn't bear the thought of a recon of JUST the parts that have broken and then thinking the rest of the box is still worn/aged. I really do believe that if its a keeper then its worth shopping to find the best price for a replacement ZF one from TPS and anywhere else (maybe even ZF direct?) and bite the bullet and then have some piece of mind for a few more years
I really doubt it was new box. They have been out of production for years. Audi(or TPS) just take somebody's old box, send it to third party re-builder, then sell it again. Why else do you think they want your old box back?

Same goes for many other parts.
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I really doubt it was new box. They have been out of production for years. Audi(or TPS) just take somebody's old box, send it to third party re-builder, then sell it again. Why else do you think they want your old box back?

Same goes for many other parts.
Thanks Mr doom and gloom lol do you know that for a fact or are you just assuming all that? It was sold to me as a factory exchange box where all parts were new so do let me know the proof and I will be back to TPS to complain with my evidence of the paperwork I was provided with!!

Regardless of that the point I was making was that I would rather have a box where everything has been renewed rather than a box where just whatever is wrong has been fixed and the rest left as it is with pre-existing wear. . .
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Old 20th December 2012, 06:01 PM
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Of course I do not know for the fact but that's generally how it happens unless it's a new old stock that has been sitting somewhere in warehouse for years.

But like you say buying from dealer gives you piece of mind and you don't need to wait while your box is being rebuilt. Either way it should be as good as new if a full rebuild is done. Parts like casings shafts and gears are not usually replaced unless damaged. On the full rebuild they normally replace any wear parts like clutches, bearings, seals even if they are still good and any damaged parts. If You go straight to rebuilder you may agree to replace only faulty parts for less cost at your own risk or shorter warranty period.

Alot lot of parts from dealers are rebuild parts dealers it's just that they do not advertise them as rebuilds. This include things like complete engines, cylinder heads, HP diesel pumps, turbos, MAFs, ECUs, brake calipers and many others. Basically anything that dealer wants to keep your old part as exchange will be rebuild and resold as new unless damaged beyond repair.

I am cheap so if my box fails it's either DIY rebuild, manual conversion or scrap.
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The local Audi dealer specifically told me yesterday that all of the internals are new, just the external casing is recycled. She's also confirmed that I need to pay up front on order . She implied that they are factory order items, but I'll check this.

I'm still waiting for Chester Transmission to formally confirm the recon quote price range, but will also investigate the TPS/ZF direct options, as helpfully suggested by others on here.

Amanda - could you let me know how long ago you had yours done by Chester Transmissions, and roughly how many miles you've covered since then - you sound like you've been pretty happy with the work they've done. I'm basically weighing up whether the extra 3-4k is worth the peace of mind/extended warranty - assuming that I don't allow it to be scrapped, which would be a very, very, very difficult thing to do.

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Yes mine was done in march 2011 and have done approx 12,000 miles since. I cannot give you a price as the work was all billed to me by unit 20 when I had my engine upgrade. I bet the boys at Chester trans remember my car
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Stephen, Jim quoted some prices from Mackies here and they are main ZF agents, as I said before though there is still the problem of Geography in the way
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Old 20th December 2012, 08:19 PM
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If either of you want to post your gearbox codes I'll have a look in Etka for a current price - although I seem to recall Mr HP you've lost all your labels, unless I'm mixing your car with another?! Age is getting to me ahead of my mid-life crisis next year......
Cheers Adrian - not sure which is the gearbox code from the code sticker on the inside cover of the service book, so here's the codes listed (hopefully one of these is the right one ):

265KW (Engine output, I think), A5 (I think this may the gearbox code), 03/02 (year of manufacture)

AVP (Engine code?), EUU FBG (gearbox code?)

Other codes are optional equipment and the rest of the build codes...

Brian - thanks for the link to the Mackie's quotes: it's another option, and get's me north of the border - always a good thing - even if it's on a low loader

Amanda - thanks for the info on when yours was done, appreciated.
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Pretty sure A4Audi mentioned about 2.5k all in when I was toying with a new box in my D2.
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Gearbox code is something like 5 HP 24 FLA so it might be the FBG bit?
Mine was a 5 HP 19 FLA for the 3.7

But im not sure if theres another code for the later sport mode gearbox

Mine was an 01V gearbox on the sticker but looking at THIS there are at least 5 codes
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Pretty sure A4Audi mentioned about 2.5k all in when I was toying with a new box in my D2.
pretty sure Andy sources his boxes from Mackies, he sent me there for my gearbox service
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