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Old 31st January 2014, 02:38 PM
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Have not seen the air pipes on D3 but brake pipes and hoses(any car) do not look too impressive however they can handle 150-200 Bar.
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Old 31st January 2014, 03:17 PM
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I'll see what I can do this evening, the compressor outputs 16bar and that fills up the pressure resevoir, in turn that supplies the valve block, which feeds all four struts. So the 16 bar is used to maintain all four struts, thats only 4 bar each. The actual air needed will be less otherwise the compressor will be running pretty much all the time. I would expect to see close to 16bar at the G291 sensor, but maybe I'll be proved wrong.
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Old 31st January 2014, 05:30 PM
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Right I did some testing in the office carpark before driving home.

Starting point, car has been parked all day and compressor has not yet run.

Reading


Down to Dynamic

Reading


Up to Lift

In Motion, compressor on.

Fully Lifted


If you view the attached VCDS log which I did driving home from work, you can see that the sensor does ramp up to in excess of 10 bar.
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Old 31st January 2014, 05:31 PM
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Hi Mannyo,

Pressure in the Accumulator is available to any / all the struts, its not divided by 4.

Each Strut has a solenoid valve dedicated to it that opens in conjunction with the valve that isolates the accumulator.

I went out just now and tested mine, and using measuring bocks in VCDS I could see between 3 - 9 bar depending on if i was going up or down.

I did my first set of tests using the mmi to raise and lower the car with the engine off, the compressor would not run and after 4/5 up down sequences the accumulator emptied and lift was greyed out on the mmi.

Once started the compressor ran and charged back up.

All that said I found there is a better way to test and that's to go to output tests in the level control module and run them, it will go through many tests but the one that we should pay particular attention to is Accumulator test.

Unfortunately I didn't let mine run long enough and it didn't charge high enough to satisfy the test.

I will do another test tomorrow as the compressor was up to around 60 degrees after all my dicking around.
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Old 31st January 2014, 05:45 PM
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Del,

I have just attached an excel spreadsheet to post 53, which is a log of the suspension activity on my drive home.
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Old 31st January 2014, 06:10 PM
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Looks like I'm short at least 2bar from your top readings, especially Lift and Comfort (Automatic) ????

Is the log always available and autosaves every time you stop a car or you have to enable test via VCDS before journey ??
Sorry, this might be a stupid question
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Old 31st January 2014, 06:14 PM
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For the log, on the measuring screen press the log button in the bottom right. VCDS will ask for a filename, then off you go. When done, press close log and look in the logs folder.
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Old 31st January 2014, 06:20 PM
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Cheers Manny
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Old 31st January 2014, 06:24 PM
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...wait, do you guys think that lower pressure could be the reason behind lowering issues, such as each axle won't go below -10 or -15mm mark from the zero value ??

Sorry, completely different subject, but I'd like to see what you think/know about that
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