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D3 - Interior Electrics Airbags, Sensors, climate modules, instrument clusters, switches etc |
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Ghost in the machine?
I have recently started to see a number of symptoms that may or may not (I hope) indicate a developing electrical problem.
First sign was that the stereo started switching itself on while I was driving. No hands anywhere near a button to do so - radio switches on. Not a big deal - by itself. Then, yesterday, I was picking up a colleague to go to work and noticed that the seat-heating had switched itself on. At the same time, the ventilated seat function, had stopped working. For many, this would not be a big problem but it's only may and already 43 degrees here, so I'd rather get it fixed before summer! I tried cycling the seat heaters on and off, re-selecting the ventilation and so on but to no avail. Luckily, I stopped for fuel shortly afterwards and the stop-start of the systems seems to have cleared the problem. Haven't had a chance to vag-com it yet to see if there are any codes but am worried that it may be water ingress into connectors (although it hasn't properly rained here for over a year) or similar. Anyone seen this before? p.s. Friend has now nicknamed the car "Christine"!
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vagcom cristine asap
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______________________________________________ A8 4.2TDI - Ice Silver, Comfort heated/cooled/massage Seats, Alcantara, Extended Leather pack, Ambient light pack, Solar roof, Night Vision, Lane change assist, Audi presense, Audi BrakeGuard, ACC Cruise, Blinds, Quad Air, AMI, Online services, Parking with rear Camera, Aluminium brushed inlays, Adaptive Zenons, High beam assist, Bose Sound, and more Gone but not forgotten: A8 D3 2005- AMI HDD, Audible Parking, TV, NAV, Bluetooth, Hybrid TV, Aftermarket headrest monitors, Rosstech VCDS / Vagcom |
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Here's what the Vag-COM doctor said - edited to shorten
VCDS Version: Release 11.11.3 (x64) Data version: 20120401 Saturday,05,May,2012,16:15:46:40931 Chassis Type: 4E0 Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 09 11 31 15 16 17 19 1D 1E 25 28 34 36 37 38 42 46 47 4F 52 53 55 56 57 61 62 65 67 72 76 77 VIN: WAUMR44E95N005029 Mileage: 64830km/40283miles 01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010 06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: Malfunction 0010 07-Control Head -- Status: Malfunction 0010 19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010 47-Sound System -- Status: Malfunction 0010 53-Parking Brake -- Status: Malfunction 0010 61-Battery Regul. -- Status: Malfunction 0010 77-Telephone -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine Labels: 07C-910-018-BHT1.lbl Part No SW: 4E0 910 018 D HW: 4E0 906 018 Component: 6.0L W12/4V G ª0020 Revision: 00000000 Serial number: AUX3Z0D6346632 Coding: 0005773 Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200 VCID: 2045F1BBF3D8C29 1 Fault Found: 19061 - Linear Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B2 S1 Pump Current Trim Circuit P2629 - 004 - Open - MIL ON Readiness: 0000 0000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass Labels: None Part No SW: 4E0 910 760 C HW: 4E0 959 760 Component: Sitzmemory BFS H08 0060 Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 5DS 008 795-03 Coding: 4063840 Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200 VCID: 234FFEB7E2CED91 4 Faults Found: 01883 - Lumbar Support Fore / Aft Adjustment Button (E336); Backward 003 - Mechanical Failure Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 01100011 Fault Priority: 4 Fault Frequency: 13 Reset counter: 161 Mileage: 64220 km Time Indication: 0 Date: 2012.04.26 Time: 16:35:46 01882 - Lumbar Support Fore / Aft Adjustment Button (E336); Forward 003 - Mechanical Failure Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 01100011 Fault Priority: 4 Fault Frequency: 16 Reset counter: 161 Mileage: 64220 km Time Indication: 0 Date: 2012.04.26 Time: 16:35:46 01881 - Lumbar Support Height Adjustment Button (E335); Down 003 - Mechanical Failure Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 01100011 Fault Priority: 4 Fault Frequency: 5 Reset counter: 161 Mileage: 64268 km Time Indication: 0 Date: 2012.04.29 Time: 15:47:43 01880 - Lumbar Support Height Adjustment Button (E335); Up 003 - Mechanical Failure Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 01100011 Fault Priority: 4 Fault Frequency: 5 Reset counter: 161 Mileage: 64268 km Time Indication: 0 Date: 2012.04.29 Time: 15:47:43 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 07: Control Head Labels: 4E0-910-7xx-07.lbl Part No SW: 4E0 910 769 Q HW: 4E0 035 729 A Component: Interfacebox H43 5570 Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 300GO047537484 Coding: 0000002 Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000 VCID: 3A7123D37544B89 Part No: 4E0 910 609 C Component: Bedienteil MMI H43 0100 2 Faults Found: 00003 - Control Module 005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 01100101 Fault Priority: 5 Fault Frequency: 1 Reset counter: 142 Mileage: 63917 km Time Indication: 0 Date: 2012.04.18 Time: 20:09:47 02244 - Button in Control Head is Stuck 000 - - - Intermittent Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 00100000 Fault Priority: 5 Fault Frequency: 1 Reset counter: 196 Mileage: 64309 km Time Indication: 0 Date: 2012.04.30 Time: 08:16:49 Freeze Frame: Bin. Bits: 00000100 Bin. Bits: 0000000 Bin. Bits: 000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 4E0-910-468.lbl Part No SW: 4E0 910 468 HW: 4E0 907 468 A Component: Gateway H07 0070 Revision: 07 Serial number: 160030463007EB Coding: FCFFFFDD2B7504 Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200 VCID: E5CB20AF2C7A671 1 Fault Found: 01303 - Telephone Transceiver (R36) 004 - No Signal/Communication Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 01100100 Fault Priority: 3 Fault Frequency: 104 Reset counter: 161 Mileage: 63917 km Time Indication: 0 Date: 2012.04.18 Time: 20:05:37 ---------------------------------------------------------- Address 47: Sound System Labels: 4E0-910-223.lbl Part No SW: 4E0 910 223 P HW: 4E0 035 223 A Component: DSP-Amp.-High H13 0460 Revision: PROD_01 Serial number: 00000000005168 Coding: 0000016 Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200 VCID: 2A51139385E4089 1 Fault Found: 02095 - Component Protection Active 000 - - - Intermittent Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 00100000 Fault Priority: 6 Fault Frequency: 1 Reset counter: 182 Mileage: 1048575 km Time Indication: 0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 53: Parking Brake Labels: 4E0-910-801.clb Part No SW: 4E0 910 801 HW: 4E0 907 801 Component: EPB A01H019 H01 0190 Coding: 0000631 Shop #: WSC 76700 819 177785 VCID: DCBD054B1F30269 1 Fault Found: 02596 - Rear Brake Pads Worn 008 - Implausible Signal Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 01110000 Fault Priority: 6 Fault Frequency: 1 Reset counter: 140 Mileage: 1048575 km Time Indication: 0 Freeze Frame: Voltage: 9.83 V Count: 61 ----------------------------------------------------------- Address 61: Battery Regul. Labels: 4E0-910-181.lbl Part No SW: 4E0 910 181 C HW: 4E0 915 181 C Component: J0644 BEM H11 0510 Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000004595 Shop #: WSC 00020 767 61772 VCID: 2045F1BBF3D8C29 Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 915 105 A Component: von VA0 310219J0L5 Coding: 34453039313531303541205641303331303231394A304C35 Shop #: WSC 76700 819 177785 1 Fault Found: 02256 - Quiescent Current 001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 00100001 Fault Priority: 7 Fault Frequency: 6 Reset counter: 197 Mileage: 64241 km Time Indication: 0 Date: 2012.04.27 Time: 02:15:37 End --------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm kind of flummoxed how my parking brake pads think they've done more than 1,000,000 Kms (!) but figure that the stuck button in the control head and the dead lumbar support switch are the important parts. Don't get the component protection for the stereo though, what would that ) be caused by and b) limit in the system? The telephone errors are caused by my replacement of the module with a mobridge unit. Anyone got a noobs guide as to how to do the adaptation fot the control head? that's been needing done for a while.
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Update - have checked all 4 lumbar support adjustments - all of them working normally!
MMI return button is somewhat sticky - suspect something may have been spilled on it - will need to figure out how to dismantle the centre console without breaking anything before going any further.
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Clear the codes down and see what comes back.. many codes can be stored for years beyond the initial problem.
MMI sticky buttons are common... I don't allow open drinks containers in the front cup holders usually as there's no water ingress protection on the MMI control panel! (poor design). Just work at it a bit and see if it loosens off.
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incorrect coding on Address 07: Control Head needs to be fixed while your there
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______________________________________________ A8 4.2TDI - Ice Silver, Comfort heated/cooled/massage Seats, Alcantara, Extended Leather pack, Ambient light pack, Solar roof, Night Vision, Lane change assist, Audi presense, Audi BrakeGuard, ACC Cruise, Blinds, Quad Air, AMI, Online services, Parking with rear Camera, Aluminium brushed inlays, Adaptive Zenons, High beam assist, Bose Sound, and more Gone but not forgotten: A8 D3 2005- AMI HDD, Audible Parking, TV, NAV, Bluetooth, Hybrid TV, Aftermarket headrest monitors, Rosstech VCDS / Vagcom |
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actually seems to be correctly coded
must be the adaptation theres only one in the rosstech wiki Adaptation Channel 012: Telephone Type 0 = No Telephone 1 = Fixed Telephone installed (PR-9ZJ) 2 = Cell Phone Preparation OR Bluetooth Phone installed (PR-9ZG/9ZW) 4 = Telematics installed (PR-9ZS)
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______________________________________________ A8 4.2TDI - Ice Silver, Comfort heated/cooled/massage Seats, Alcantara, Extended Leather pack, Ambient light pack, Solar roof, Night Vision, Lane change assist, Audi presense, Audi BrakeGuard, ACC Cruise, Blinds, Quad Air, AMI, Online services, Parking with rear Camera, Aluminium brushed inlays, Adaptive Zenons, High beam assist, Bose Sound, and more Gone but not forgotten: A8 D3 2005- AMI HDD, Audible Parking, TV, NAV, Bluetooth, Hybrid TV, Aftermarket headrest monitors, Rosstech VCDS / Vagcom |
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did you just do an MMi update? from what version?
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______________________________________________ A8 4.2TDI - Ice Silver, Comfort heated/cooled/massage Seats, Alcantara, Extended Leather pack, Ambient light pack, Solar roof, Night Vision, Lane change assist, Audi presense, Audi BrakeGuard, ACC Cruise, Blinds, Quad Air, AMI, Online services, Parking with rear Camera, Aluminium brushed inlays, Adaptive Zenons, High beam assist, Bose Sound, and more Gone but not forgotten: A8 D3 2005- AMI HDD, Audible Parking, TV, NAV, Bluetooth, Hybrid TV, Aftermarket headrest monitors, Rosstech VCDS / Vagcom |
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Ok, here goes -
All codes were cleared a week ago when I finally finished the job of getting the air suspension working again, so are current. The only MMI button that seems to be a bit sticky is the return one - been working on it for a bit but am off the next few days, so can do it properly. Telematics was showing a fault even before I removed the module to replace with the mobridge unit. Question is, when the OEM module is replaced by a third party one, which code is set in the adaptation? MMI was upgraded recently - to 5570 from 5150. Only disk 3 was used as no factory bluetooth - mobridge unit was "hidden" while update was installed. The "incorrect adaptation" error on the control head has been present since I bought the car (from the only dealer here) 6 months ago! Am also wondering now about the battery control module - had an electrical fault a few weeks ago that drained the battery but hasn't recurred - wonder if it got damaged? Charging carried out "by the book". Any comments on the "Mileage: 1048575 km" shown on address 47 and 53?
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its possible/Probable that the MMi update caused the component protection to kick in,
sort the adaptation Channel 12 out , just change the value to the one that fits best with your setup, i dont know what the mobridge needs or how its installed, maybe start by adding the value 0 in place not sure if you also need to untick the phone from the gateway
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______________________________________________ A8 4.2TDI - Ice Silver, Comfort heated/cooled/massage Seats, Alcantara, Extended Leather pack, Ambient light pack, Solar roof, Night Vision, Lane change assist, Audi presense, Audi BrakeGuard, ACC Cruise, Blinds, Quad Air, AMI, Online services, Parking with rear Camera, Aluminium brushed inlays, Adaptive Zenons, High beam assist, Bose Sound, and more Gone but not forgotten: A8 D3 2005- AMI HDD, Audible Parking, TV, NAV, Bluetooth, Hybrid TV, Aftermarket headrest monitors, Rosstech VCDS / Vagcom |
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