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Architex_mA8tey 16th February 2021 10:42 AM

Added to the common faults sticky also thanks all +++

David's8 16th February 2021 10:46 AM

That's great, Sean and Neil +++ Im sure it'll help others do some preventive maintenance as the trouble with this fault is that you dont know its a problem until, one day, you need to use it.

The_Laird 16th February 2021 02:35 PM

Pretty sure that’s my problem too so I’ll have a look now it’s getting warmer. One question, would I be right to assume that each tumbler is different and has to be replaced from whence it came in order to allow the key to work? I know that’s how it is with house locks, so it seems a reasonable extrapolation.

MikkiJayne 16th February 2021 02:44 PM

Yes exactly, which is also how you can re-key a replacement mechanism to fit a different key, although in that case it does help to have a box full of recycled tumblers.

The_Laird 18th February 2021 04:50 PM

Well, I took it to bits, but it wouldn’t come out through the little door for the rear lights as it had been put in from the other side of the mounting bracket, so the rear light cluster had to come out along with the boot lid liner.

The tumblers were, indeed, all seized, although not as bad as Vera’s, so I took it all apart and cleaned it.

But then, on reassembly, I got some of the tumblers mixed up, so had a painstaking fiddle about to get them in the right order to fit the key!

And, to add insult to injury, one of the tiny tumbler springs disappeared into another dimension! No amount of searching could find it, so my lock barrel is now missing one tumbler. I confess, however, that I don’t think the compromised security on the boot lock will really be an issue.

It’ll all go back on the car tomorrow, unless some kind soul could express post me a teeny tumbler spring (but why would you have a spare one of those?).

MikkiJayne 18th February 2021 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Laird (Post 163173)
It’ll all go back on the car tomorrow, unless some kind soul could express post me a teeny tumbler spring (but why would you have a spare one of those?).

Well, if someone happened to have a box full of disassembled locks and teeny tiny tumbler spring for exactly this scenario, it would be rude not to share wouldn't it +++

David's8 18th February 2021 05:39 PM

Mine was properly seized and I couldnt get the assembly apart so its been sent on a journey to the D2 doctor ..... +++

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Laird (Post 163173)
Well, I took it to bits, but it wouldn’t come out through the little door for the rear lights as it had been put in from the other side of the mounting bracket, so the rear light cluster had to come out along with the boot lid liner.

The tumblers were, indeed, all seized, although not as bad as Vera’s, so I took it all apart and cleaned it.

But then, on reassembly, I got some of the tumblers mixed up, so had a painstaking fiddle about to get them in the right order to fit the key!

And, to add insult to injury, one of the tiny tumbler springs disappeared into another dimension! No amount of searching could find it, so my lock barrel is now missing one tumbler. I confess, however, that I don’t think the compromised security on the boot lock will really be an issue.

It’ll all go back on the car tomorrow, unless some kind soul could express post me a teeny tumbler spring (but why would you have a spare one of those?).


The_Laird 18th February 2021 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikkiJayne (Post 163174)
Well, if someone happened to have a box full of disassembled locks and teeny tiny tumbler spring for exactly this scenario, it would be rude not to share wouldn't it +++

If you really are happy to let me have a spring, please name your price - cash or chocolates?

27litres 26th February 2021 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David's8 (Post 163037)
However, on connecting my (cheap Aldi) charger it indicates that battery is faulty and wont attempt to put a charge in.

It could very well be that the battery is faulty, but any modern smart charger requires a certain amount of electrical resistance and voltage feedback to initiate a charge.
Which in English means that smart chargers won't charge a totally flat battery.

(The work around is to couple a good battery in parallel to fool the charger)

David's8 26th February 2021 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 27litres (Post 163476)
It could very well be that the battery is faulty, but any modern smart charger requires a certain amount of electrical resistance and voltage feedback to initiate a charge.
Which in English means that smart chargers won't charge a totally flat battery.

(The work around is to couple a good battery in parallel to fool the charger)

Yes, you're right. I connected my C-TEK charger and that had the same result. However, this battery was well and truly dead and nothing revived it. I did get a replacement from the supplier though - eventually!


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