Brexit - The Poll

[moltuae]

Originally Posted by goldsax

Mark,
i have looked into buying bitcoins.
lots of info on it.
BUT
for me there is too much info and for me its confusing.
any guidance re. buying,banking it, exchange etc
cheers raj

There are a lot of different ways to buy cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin, some cheaper/easier/safer than others. You essentially just need at least 1 Bitcoin wallet to store them in and somewhere to buy them from, which can be from a Bitcoin exchange or just directly from someone you know.

There are new methods/sites continuously being developed, making the process of buying into cryptocurrencies easier every day. I'm not up-to-date on what is currently the best/easiest/safest method, but I can tell you what works for me.

Wallet:
Blockchain.info is a quick an easy way to get started with an (online) wallet. While Blockchain.info seems pretty trustworthy though, I would HIGHLY RECOMMEND running your own offline wallet for better control/security, which isn't as difficult to setup as you might think (more about that in a moment). Additionally, you can make an online wallet more secure by making it 'watch-only': https://blog.blockchain.com/2014/11/...nly-addresses/

Buying:
This is the site I've used for a few years now: https://bittylicious.com
Once you've registered and confirmed your identity, you will be given a limit on the amount you can purchase, this will increase over time as you become more 'trusted'. The simplest way I find to pay is the direct bank transfer method. You will be sending payments directly to trading individuals, so your bank account will need to have the facility to add recipients and pay individuals instantly. You also need to be able to add a payment reference (very important), which is used to identify the payment. DO NOT make any mention of bitcoin in the payment reference; some banks will refuse the payment if you do.

Offline wallets:
If you get more into cryptocurrencies and start buying a lot of it, I would seriously consider running your own offline wallet (aka 'cold storage'). While Blockchain.info and the likes are probably safe, there's no guarantee their wallets are 100% secure or that they won't go the way of the infamous Mt.Gox. To set up an offline wallet is really as simple as installing wallet software, but it needs to be on a 'clean', dedicated PC (or Virtual Machine) that can be kept offline (for the majority of the time) and preferably you should consider running it in a Linux OS. MOST IMPORTANTLY though, whichever software you use, be sure to make 'paper backups' (essentially a printout of your private keys, which allow you to recover the wallets, should something happen to the PC/VM). It's important though to ensure the computer used is very secure (hence kept offline, and preferably Linux-based or perhaps a Mac). While it's probably reasonably unlikely, a hacker (or a virus that specifically targets Bitcoin wallets) could relieve you of your funds. The purpose of the paper backup is to regain access to your wallet, it will not get your funds back if they're stolen!

For offline wallet software I use Armory: https://www.bitcoinarmory.com/

There's also Electrum, which was more recently developed. I haven't tried it but I believe it's easier to setup and use than Armory, and lighter on resources: https://electrum.org/

There are tons of guides and videos online that will walk you through the setup process for both Armory and Electrum.

[HPsauce]

I don't like the way Sturgeon is rewriting the result to suit her political agenda. And rewording the question.
A while ago Scotland voted to REMAIN in the UK.

The majority of those who voted in Scotland have just voted in a UK-wide referendum in favour of the WHOLE UK REMAINING in the EU.

Or was there a separate secret ballot paper asking if people wanted Scotland to stay in the EU irrespective of what the rest of the UK decided?
No, thought not, different question.

[Lee S]

Hmmm, yes. She is deluded if she thinks the EU will give Scotland any leeway. They all voted to stay IN the UK and the UK as a whole has just voted to LEAVE the EU. And is she forgetting that of the 2 and a half million people in Scotland that voted, over a million actually wanted out of the stinking EU carbuncle too.... I wouldn't call that unanimous like Gibraltar's vote was.... dear oh dear...

I'm just waiting for Wales' FM to start on the same road too, despite it being an overall Leave vote..

[ainarssems]

There is a petition calling for second referendum with over 1.5m signatures.

[moltuae]

Originally Posted by ainarssems

There is a petition calling for second referendum with over 1.5m signatures.

Seems a bit pointless unless there are more signatures than there were votes for/against.

Unless of course every person who has signed it is stating that they wish to change their vote.

[snapdragon]

Millennials love victim politics.

[tonupkid]

Originally Posted by snapdragon

Millennials love victim politics.

Millennials are only 16 by my reckoning, which makes them victims of everthing

[tintin]

Originally Posted by tonupkid

Millennials are only 16 by my reckoning, which makes them victims of everthing

[HPsauce]

Over 3 million now:

[snapdragon]

The rules they refer to about triggering a second referendum only apply to Parliamentary referendums - so it is a waste of the whining, bedwetting libtards' time.