Brexit - The Poll

[HPsauce]

Just stating facts. That's why it will take time, which thankfully most participants seem to be being realistic about.

[mattylondon]

Originally Posted by pete-p

and they've so far washed their hands of it!

Cameron is Pro EU, could you really ask him to withdraw the UK from the EU? Cameron resigning has checked mated who ever evokes Article 50. It is political suicide... if you don't follow the will of the country you're gone. Evoke Artical 50 and the UK breaks up, economy dive bombs short to middle term, you're gone. Nobody wants this poisoned chalice. A pyrrhic win for the out vote. That's why things are moving slowly and this uncertainty is good for nobody - xenophobia is on the rise, bank stocks suspended, list goes on... The enormity of withdrawal has started to sink in.

[HPsauce]

I see Angela Eagle has just quit.
We do need a credible opposition. Not least to participate in any negotiations but also offer an electable alternative if things get really bad.

[mattylondon]

[roberto]

Originally Posted by HPsauce

Well apart from the fact that "out" had no agreed plan there's the minor difficulty of getting 27 other governments (who may need approval from their parliaments or electorate) to agree to a deal. Once we know what we're asking for......

27 phone calls done..
trade with us if you want, dont if you dont want..
bothered..

[HPsauce]

That's not the way it works though, the EU trades as a block with common tariffs, rules etc.

[pete-p]

Originally Posted by mattylondon

Cameron is Pro EU, could you really ask him to withdraw the UK from the EU?

Well, he did ask... foolishly perhaps. It's probably for the best anyway after what he got the last time he negotiated with the EU.

[mattylondon]

Originally Posted by roberto

27 phone calls done..
trade with us if you want, dont if you dont want..
bothered..

A few more phone calls are needed, the UK had trade agreements with other countries via the EU.

Turkey
San Marino
Andorra
Kosovo
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Serbia
Ukraine
Montenegro
Albania
The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia
Faroe Islands
Norway
Iceland
Switzerland
Algeria
Egypt
Lebanon
Jordan
Israel
Morocco
Tunisia
Palestinian Authority
Syria
Colombia and Peru
Central America
Iraq
Papua New Guinea and Fiji
Korea
Cameroon
Madagascar, Mauritius, the Seychelles, and Zimbabwe Economic Partnership
Chile
Mexico
South Africa
CARIFORUM States

http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/doc...129.pdf#page=6

Apparently the UK has 20, or so, qualified people in International Trade as the EU did it on our behalf. I wonder how well that will go?

Hello... This is London calling... Hello.. Speaka da english...?? I want to trade with you My Old Bean...

[oldnick]

afraid cameron demonstrated his stupidity or maybe just arrogance

a quick poll would have demonstrated that the young overwhelmingly love an open EU ....so why did he block 16 year olds from getting the vote [ as they did in the scottish referendum for example ]

plenty of examples of referendums in other countries , some binding , some not as in the uk ; but the one thing they have in common is that , for example , 20million and 1 is not carried versus 20 million; 60% and 66% are the common figures used , some with a minimum percentage of voters having voted

anyone know if the voting was done on the same basis as parliamentary seats so that MP's know how their constituency went ? this has to pass the house of commons yet ....it ain't over until the fat lady sings and MP's won't vote against their electors , will they !

[HPsauce]

I think the analysis is by counting area which did not correspond to seats in parliament.