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3rd February 2017, 08:46 AM
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Exactly that I believe - so not much chance it will be viable I'm afraid
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3rd February 2017, 08:52 AM
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Just opened up a VCDS scan from a face lift car - they have an additional module for the electronic power steering
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The other (slightly more useful, maybe) feature with the face lift is the "Parking Assist" which can park your car for you - all be it in a dim-witted way that will leave you embarrassed to get out afterwards (lot's more shunting backwards and forwards than it takes if you can just reverse yourself).
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3rd February 2017, 09:01 AM
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Thanks Paul for your help.
I can't find any evidence online to suggest that the power steering system is different. . Just browsing power steering pumps online for 2010+ A8s they all seem to look the same even up to 2015 units.. seems to be no pully on the unit rather a motor ... I'm most certainly no expert mind so I could well be looking at the wrong thing! If they all have electric hydraulic power steering is it possible the only difference is the address 44 unit? ... maybe some kind of motor that turns the wheel on the steering column?
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3rd February 2017, 09:18 AM
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Here are the PF and FL columns and ECUs.
PF - 2011 D4 Steering column ECU FL - 2016 D4 ECU
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3rd February 2017, 09:20 AM
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Address 44 part number and price
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#6
3rd February 2017, 10:20 AM
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I'm sure you have already seen this:
https://www.kufatec.co.uk/shop/en/au...ion-audi-a8-4h Quote:
Last edited by paulrstaylor; 3rd February 2017 at 10:24 AM.
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#7
3rd February 2017, 10:28 AM
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My Volvo has all that stuff, it gently shakes the steering wheel (feels as if driving over a mild rumble strip) and also nudges back into lane.
You have to consciously move the steering with a bit more firmness to cross a line it thinks is a lane marking, unless you are indicating of course when it turns off temporarily. But I'm pretty sure it has electric power steering so probably much easier to implement at a reasonable cost. I've never once tried the park assist, and we've had the car over 6 months! 
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3rd February 2017, 10:25 AM
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Park assist was available shortly after the D4 release iirc, which rings true as my 2011 A7 had it. It actually worked surprisingly well, even though it doesn't really account for how far away the kerb is....
I was fairly confident if you had park assist, you had the steering gubbings to make active land assist work, it was really then about coding and calibration. I looked into retrofitting the active lane assist in my A7 for quite a while and concluded I was only really missing a stalk, some coding and that all important ingredient, time. But, if you don't have park assist or active lane assist, then I would imagine its some replacement (and likely expensive) steering gear. Pump and column will be the same, its more likely the rack itself that changed I imagine. Its a bit of a weird sensation having active lane assist on, as you feel a bit out of control at first, but then adaptive cruise control felt like that initially too, but they're both great features I'd definitely use.
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#9
3rd February 2017, 10:51 AM
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Agreed - if you have park assist and ACC you have the right components to change a stalk and re-code to enable active lane assist - but checking back through D4 brochures you could only get park assist/active lance assist from the face-lift onward (long after the A7).
It is definitely a marmite option, I love ACC but have active lane assist. The steering didn't feel natural or direct (probably as it deliberately isn't) and it was disconcerting on the motorway in my eyes. If you are serious about an expensive retrofit I'd suggest you try a car with it installed first and make your own opinion
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