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Old 8th June 2017, 06:29 PM
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I thought Amar had done at least 1 set of discs on this car early in his ownership, or am I remembering that wrong?

I thought there were some aftermarket disc options available now, but struggling now to find specific details....
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Old 8th June 2017, 07:56 PM
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lovely car good luck with sale regardless of the work needed
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If it was an avant I'd be very very tempted! I need the bigger boot

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I thought Amar had done at least 1 set of discs on this car early in his ownership, or am I remembering that wrong?

I thought there were some aftermarket disc options available now, but struggling now to find specific details....
Yeah seem to remember that too, think he got them done under warranty as well, he did track it a fair bit which I imagine would not help. I struggled to find any aftermarket options when I replaced the front steel discs on mine, ECP sometimes list them but not sure of the make. I ended up with genuine from TPS, not cheap though
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Old 8th June 2017, 10:18 PM
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If whoever buys it wants to keep it on ceramics its worth checking out a more permanent solution for example getting a set of proper carbon discs from systems st who make oem brakes for Koenigsegg and replacement discs for Porsches. Form what I understand they are solid carbon all the way through not a bonded friction layer like Audi and Porsche stock discs.

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I thought Amar had done at least 1 set of discs on this car early in his ownership, or am I remembering that wrong?
Its my understanding that the front discs we're replaced at some point for part worn ones, hence why the original rears have now worn out ahead of the front ones.

I think given the cost of ceramics relative to the cost of the car, it seems unlikely that a new owner would kit it out with new ceramics, and probably converted to steel, but i'm trying to avoid being the owner that has to execute that decision....

Unless you're intending to use it heavily on the track, the steel brakes do just fine, but don't fill the 20" alloys to the max in quite the same way...
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I thought ceramic rotors were supposed to last the life of the car...
Clearly not - bloody expensive for a consumable item!

Someone should make steel discs of the same dimensions as the ceramics for a direct fit replacement. Even at a few hundred £ it would represent an affordable and economical solution to worn ceramics.

Is there a recoating solution?
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I thought ceramic rotors were supposed to last the life of the car...
Clearly not - bloody expensive for a consumable item!

Someone should make steel discs of the same dimensions as the ceramics for a direct fit replacement. Even at a few hundred £ it would represent an affordable and economical solution to worn ceramics.

Is there a recoating solution?
How big are they, 420mm? I know you can get 400mm discs on the D4 which *may* use the same caliper (with different pistons?), but they ain't cheap either.....

http://audisrs.com/AUDI_S6_S7_S8_A6_...bout69435.html
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I thought ceramic rotors were supposed to last the life of the car...
Clearly not - bloody expensive for a consumable item!

Someone should make steel discs of the same dimensions as the ceramics for a direct fit replacement. Even at a few hundred £ it would represent an affordable and economical solution to worn ceramics.

Is there a recoating solution?
In summary, i think its probably fair to say that ceramics would expect to last 3 to 4 times longer than steels. To suggest that any braking system could last x amount of time, or y mileage, suggests Audi can control how its driven, which of course they cannot. I think the RS cars in their very nature are driven harder, more of the time, rather than sat (Wastefully!) chewing up motorway miles, so you get this apparently large discrepancy between expectation and reality.

The rear steels and ceramics are the same size. They will bolt straight on I'm told.

The front ceramics are 420mm, where the steels are considerably smaller.

I had wondered about a steel bolt on replacement, but ceramics are very light - a 420mm steel disc is going to add some serious unsprung weight to the car.

I've had a lot of interest in the car, and I've got a couple of offers close to what I need to sell it, but not close enough.

It interesting. There are most definitely 2 camps of people when it comes to the RS6:

1) Poweeeeer. They see this car as a pretty, carbon dressed, MRC tuned monster and are delighted it has ceramic callipers, but want it cheap to be able to sort the ceramics out. It'll spend every weekday in the garage, and the weekends going sideways. Factory options just add weight. Shame its got so many of them.

2) Spec. Mr Executive. Wants a really high spec, good looking Audi for daily use, and wants every overtake and B road to put a grin on his face. Sees ceramics as a costly ticking time bomb and really wants a car with everything, apart from those.

If I were to prepare the car for resale properly, it would be ceramics off, factory spec steel callipers and discs on. Its a no brainer. Net cost is about £2k I expect, and then it would appeal to Mr Executive, but no longer would interest Mr Poweeeeeer !
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2001 D2 4.2 QS Silver, 1997 D2 S8 Silver, 1999 D2 4.2 Silver, 2002 D2 S8 Dolphin Grey,
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I'm approaching 100k on mine and was looking at options to replace the carbon ceramic brakes. Haven't found anyone able to do it reasonably yet.
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