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Old 18th October 2017, 06:00 AM
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over the last two years, I have had one in Monaco and one in Pisa, both pursued with letters, the Monaco one falls under French jurisdiction apparently and they can either seize your car till you pay or ban you from driving in France - so if you don't pay and get caught driving, they pursue you for other means.

I paid both and chalked it up to experience.
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Old 18th October 2017, 07:03 AM
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Yeah, I paid up too - it wasnt the future problems driving in Luxembourg that was the clincher (very unlikely to return in th 8) but the ability to pass the fine back to the UK for collection.

http://ec.europa.eu/justice/criminal...s/index_en.htm
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Old 18th October 2017, 08:16 AM
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Been flashed a few times by those horrible front-facing cameras built into grey posts in Italy and France. Most recent was July in northern Italy but haven't received anything, although I sold the car a couple of weeks after returning to the UK but still, never received anything for past camera flashes abroad.
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Old 18th October 2017, 08:17 AM
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Why should the EU take action?

EU citizens benefit from freedom of movement. In order to tackle non-payment of financial penalties committed in another EU country, specific measures that allow the national courts effectively to impose and enforce financial penalties against offenders need to be taken.

The EU needs to act in order to ensure that all its citizens are treated equally wherever they live, move or travel in the EU.

In this context, such equal treatment means that non-residents should not be in a more favourable position than residents, because they would be able to escape paying a financial penalty by going back to their home countries.
Good to know it's all about freedom and fairness and not at all about collecting as much revenue as possible
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Old 18th October 2017, 09:03 AM
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Is the offence not recorded against the driving licence then? And I presume no points allocated? So they have the means of collecting fines but not recording offences?

By the way, I would think that 5kph is below the the designed tolerance of car speedos and seems challengeable - if you wanted the hassle. (I had understood that the tolerance in UK is 10 per cent.)
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Old 18th October 2017, 09:10 AM
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I've been stopped twice, both times by hand held Gatso's. One time I was driving alone middle of nowhere between Rzeszow and Przemyśl in Poland on a back road just about to enter a small village. I was being tail-gated by a local so I sped up a bit right in view of the police. What luck! They waved me over but as I got near they just waved me on before I could speak with them. I can only assume they saw my UK plates and didn't want the hassle. I'm sure I was speeding but the sign posting in Poland on back roads is non-existing and didn't know what the limit was.

Second time was in Ukraine heading towards Kyiv on the main E40 road. There is a check point where you have to slow from nation speed to 90kph > 70 > 50 which I didn't slow in time for. Google map location You can see the traffic police with Gatso's. Once stopped I entered their office, did all the paperwork. Meanwhile a few phone calls were made and 20mins later I could go without the fine. Spending time making connections while fishing, shashlyk, and going to the sauna drinking vodka is essential in Ukraine!
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Old 18th October 2017, 06:37 PM
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It's annoying that we get tied up into their fines, but we can't pursue Europeans for crossing the Dartford crossing without paying, even though it's a French company who own it!
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Old 18th October 2017, 07:32 PM
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Rule change affects us in 'Norn Iron' too
The M50 motorway around Dublin has for the past few years been a barrier less 'e-toll'

For years 'foreign' (read, UK) cars could drive thru and never bother paying as they couldn't chase the fines.
May rule change now means that the non-payment and subsequent fines can be chased over the border.

...Not that I would have condoned such behavior in the past...ahem
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Don't recall that, I'm sure I paid a conventional toll last year driving into Dublin centre from the North in my S8.
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Rule change affects us in 'Norn Iron' too
The M50 motorway around Dublin has for the past few years been a barrier less 'e-toll'

For years 'foreign' (read, UK) cars could drive thru and never bother paying as they couldn't chase the fines.
May rule change now means that the non-payment and subsequent fines can be chased over the border.

...Not that I would have condoned such behavior in the past...ahem
They definitely chased me a few years back for not paying so it's more a case of being bothered to hunt drivers down and the cost of doing so.
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