Legislation puts brakes on the D5's 'Level 3' autonomous tech

[HPsauce]

Hmm, not so sure, isn't Tesla a "Level 2" system, Audi claim to be first at Level 3?

[paulrstaylor]

Originally Posted by HPsauce

Hmm, not so sure, isn't Tesla a "Level 2" system, Audi claim to be first at Level 3?

This.

The D4 does everything listed also, but you still have to keep your hands on the wheel and your wits about you.

D5 you don't.

Tesla maybe more relaxed in its interpretation of "level 2", but still make it clear its the drivers fault if or when it all goes wrong!

[tintin]

Here's the key text (though with fleet news, you can't really be sure they've got their facts right - they can't even spell simple words like "task" FFS! - or was that the fault of the Audi Marketing copywriter (emphasis added...)

"The system named Traffic Jam Pilot, is part of Audi's new range of AI driving assistance systems. When active, the AI Traffic Jam Pilot takes charge in slow moving traffic, controlling all necessary driving functions up to a speed of 37mph.

It will be the first technology that could enable a drive to perform other taks(!!) in the car and not pay full attention to the road, as it can handle starting from standstill, accelerating, steering and braking it its lane.
When certain conditions are met, the driver is notified that they can take their hands off the wheel. As soon as the system reaches its limits, the driver will be alerted that they must regain manual control"

A Tesla does all these things and if anything they are being more modest about what their cars can do (hence the claimed "level 2"), and don't resort to artificial stunts like demo'ing autonomously driven cars which have been pre-programmed on pre-determined routes, unlike Audi.

Only one manufacturer has practical levels of autonomy now, the others just promise or make excuses for why they haven't

[paulrstaylor]

Originally Posted by tintin

Here's the key text (though with fleet news, you can't really be sure they've got their facts right - they can't even spell simple words like "task" FFS! - or was that the fault of the Audi Marketing copywriter (emphasis added...)

"The system named Traffic Jam Pilot, is part of Audi's new range of AI driving assistance systems. When active, the AI Traffic Jam Pilot takes charge in slow moving traffic, controlling all necessary driving functions up to a speed of 37mph.

It will be the first technology that could enable a drive to perform other taks(!!) in the car and not pay full attention to the road, as it can handle starting from standstill, accelerating, steering and braking it its lane.
When certain conditions are met, the driver is notified that they can take their hands off the wheel. As soon as the system reaches its limits, the driver will be alerted that they must regain manual control"

A Tesla does all these things and if anything they are being more modest about what their cars can do (hence the claimed "level 2"), and don't resort to artificial stunts like demo'ing autonomously driven cars which have been pre-programmed on pre-determined routes, unlike Audi.

Only one manufacturer has practical levels of autonomy now, the others just promise or make excuses for why they haven't

LOL - hence are you saying that your car is illegal!?

The use of this technology is currently prohibited by Regulation 104 of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986, which states: "No person shall drive or cause or permit any other person to drive a motor vehicle on a road is he is in such a position that he cannot have proper control of the vehicle or have a full view of the road and traffic ahead".

Of course not, with the key difference is that Tesla still say the driver is in control when Autopilot is on- Audi are positioning that in the D5 the car is in control when driven autonomously.

If a Tesla crashes while using auto pilot, the driver is at fault. If a D5 crashes whist being driven autonomously, Audi are at fault

BTW - the Volvo system is pretty good also, my next A8 will probably actually be an XC90

[briang9]

Maybe just me but not sure why one would want all this in the first place, call me old school but I actually enjoy driving...all part of the fun of car ownership I think

[paulrstaylor]

Originally Posted by briang9

Maybe just me but not sure why one would want all this in the first place, call me old school but I actually enjoy driving...all part of the fun of car ownership I think

Agreed , much of the time

But not on the M62(M1, M6, most city roads) at 08.30 or 17.00 on a week day, then I don't find much enjoyment

[tc4332]

Agree with you Paul.
M60