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Old 20th January 2020, 08:45 AM
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This is what I'd do for TPU:



Each half would clip over the cable and then be bonded together with polyurethane sealant. The completed thing could then be pushed in to the panel like the original.

You'd need support round the groove to print this though, unless you printed it vertically with support under the rebate. I don't know how TPU behaves with support though.
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Old 20th January 2020, 09:18 AM
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This is what I'd do for TPU:



Each half would clip over the cable and then be bonded together with polyurethane sealant. The completed thing could then be pushed in to the panel like the original.

You'd need support round the groove to print this though, unless you printed it vertically with support under the rebate. I don't know how TPU behaves with support though.
That looks perfect! I am beginning to suspect that you are some kind of genius MJ... May I ask how long you have been doing CAD?

In fusion 360 I have designed some jigsaw like connectors for multi piece objects that work quite well. It would probably work for TPU as well.



This groove was printed with supports and was no problem to clean up (ninjaflex).
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Old 20th January 2020, 09:38 AM
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I've been doing 2D CAD for about 25 years, but 3D for only a year since I bought my CR-10S. From a 2D background the leap to extruding a 2D object in to 3D space is fairly simple, but Fusion is very different to AutoCAD despite both being made by Autodesk. I did my first 3D object in Tinkercad too but quickly found its limits and moved on to Fusion360.

Check out a chap called Lars Christiansen on Youtube - he has some great tutorials which is how I got started

I'll upload these STLs on to my web server and pm you the links shortly
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Old 20th January 2020, 10:07 AM
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That looks flipping brilliant! Well done MJ

Now onto the D2 fog light grills!
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I've been doing 2D CAD for about 25 years, but 3D for only a year since I bought my CR-10S. From a 2D background the leap to extruding a 2D object in to 3D space is fairly simple, but Fusion is very different to AutoCAD despite both being made by Autodesk. I did my first 3D object in Tinkercad too but quickly found its limits and moved on to Fusion360.
25 years! That makes sense seeing your skill on display. Yes - Tinkercad does have its limits and a lack of precision/resolution but is oh so easy for someone as lazy as me!

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I think I have seen some of his vids. I will have to watch one to confirm. I have been making my way through the lynda.com tutorials on fusion 360 which has been helpful. I get lost in the complexity of the software and usually quickly retreat back to Tinkercad when I get frustrated I am ashamed to say.

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I have set the files to print....they should be ready soon

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Brilliant design MJ! I bet it fits like a glove...

Printed @ 100% infill with supports everywhere and a brim. Print time was 1hr 24 mins @ 30mm per second print speed. I will have a go at installing tomorrow and report back.


Here is the time lapse video of the print for a bit of fun!

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...I will have a go at installing tomorrow and report back.
I am guessing that the grommet that I printed was for where the wires go into the rear quarter panel that you can see when lifting the boot lid?


The one on the right side of my vehicle was missing so bonus! Seems to fit perfectly with no gluing, although probably wise to as the parts may fall into the panel void I suppose. I'll leave mine unglued and see how it fares.


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Thank you MJ for allowing me to print these and I hope you don't mind me posting the results here. I probably should have asked first I am thinking in hindsight.
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Old 21st January 2020, 07:40 AM
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Even though I know how it works, its still slightly magical that something I designed on my computer can then be a real object on the other side of the planet a short while later

It looks like it fitted quite well too. I'd definitely glue that design to make it weather-tight, but that might not matter in some parts of Australia I guess? I need to get my machines printing TPU now!
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Even though I know how it works, its still slightly magical that something I designed on my computer can then be a real object on the other side of the planet a short while later

MJ, I know that feeling of awe.
Over 25 years back I wrote an XL worksheet with embodied macros that I used at work. I passed it onto others and they used it in UK and Europe. A couple of years back I attended a reunion and one of the young guys told me that he had seen it being used on a training course in the States.
Magic.
Shame I couldn't copywrite it!!!!!
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Even though I know how it works, its still slightly magical that something I designed on my computer can then be a real object on the other side of the planet a short while later
When I showed this thread, and your part that I printed, to my partner, and pointed out the timeline from you sending the part to me and the subsequent print completion, her remark to me was ..."that's just like teleportation!"

And she is right to a degree - you could not courier a part as quickly, even in the same city usually. That is assuming that the part is still available to buy and not NLA.

It is entirely possible that you could conceive a design that did not exist in the world and yet have someone on the other side of the planet holding the realised conception in their hand in less than an hours time, such is the wonder of modern technology!

When I was a boy I remember watching Lost In Space and being well impressed at the magical machine that you simply pressed a button to select your desired object and Voila! the door to the machine was opened and there was your desired item....reality is approaching this idea.

One day we may not even have to go shopping, or to the hardware store - we will simply print our own screws, nails, and what-nots. Look! We are doing it already!


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It looks like it fitted quite well too. I'd definitely glue that design to make it weather-tight, but that might not matter in some parts of Australia I guess? I need to get my machines printing TPU now!
It fits like a glove! Yes, gluing it definitely makes sense. I suppose that a good deal of water might flow past there if it was raining hard for an extended period.
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I'd definitely glue that design to make it weather-tight, but that might not matter in some parts of Australia I guess?
Ha!
It still rains here Michaela!
Quite heavily this past week too (which hopefully put the brakes on the Victorian bushfires a bit).
Pity NSW isn't getting similar downfalls...


So with the glue, you mentioned polyurethane (which would have better adhesive qualities than silicone), so by that, do you mean Sikaflex?
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