Are Teslas any good?

[tintin]

Yes, that's the one, and I agree - they're confusing the word "concept" with "not ready to deliver".

VAG did the same prior to the arrival of the Model 3 with similar promises about various e-tron/Porsche "Tesla killers" (see most of Amar's posts from early in this thread), practically all of which didn't come to fruition in terms of price, performance or date delivered - although Tesla is also no saint on the last of those three promises

It's a real shame that this car is only a concept and won't be ready for at probably at least 2 years, as they'll be behind the curve (again...) by then. It looks really good, and I'd be very, very impressed if they delivered that on time and at this price point, but we'll see.

Whilst I'm not a big fan of VAG any more, I'd hate to see them losing out to some Chinese manufacturer: my bet is that it'll be someone like Kia who steals their crown, as they seem to have been able to pivot to EV reality and have less legacy hang-ups.

[tintin]

...or any other car. Especially whilst driving