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3rd July 2012, 01:44 PM
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Calm down dear...... /Michael winner mode Off
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#2
3rd July 2012, 02:30 PM
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Four wheel drive
I do believe the BMW drives better...but for commuting up and down the motorway and on country lanes in the rain/snow nothing feels sure footed like quattro...especially cos i ll be looking at something with a bit of poke....the 335 was great to drive but when it rained it poor to say the least and when I got stuck in snow was an absolute nightmare...so until BMW do four wheel drive saloon I m happy with Audi...
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3rd July 2012, 03:34 PM
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...or Audi learn how to make a car drive properly. They've done it with the B7 RS4 and R8. But have gone backwards since. B7 and R8 must have been by accident. Watch the RS5 vs M3 review on Top Gear. Shocking how badly it under steered.
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3rd July 2012, 03:54 PM
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No doubt the BMW handles better in the dry, but they are useless in wet, ice and snow, as are most Mercedes and Porsches or pretty much anything else rear wheel drive for that matter. My Boxster handles brilliantly in the dry, but as soon as it rains, as it usually does, you really have to tread carefully, roundabouts are my nemesis in this car. So, far all year round driving, especially when your income depends on being able to get around, for me you just can't beat 4wd, or a front drive car if you have to. As for interior quality, before buying the Boxster I looked at a number of E90 3-series, and they were all showing the wear BADLY inside (low and higher mileage examples), especially around the door pull and the steering wheel, E46s don't seem to suffer so badly. E60 5-series seem to age better in this respect by the way. BMW have announced they are going to start selling the new 3 series with their 4wd system later this year, I believe starting with the 320i and a hybrid 335i (!!!) but being brand new, you can imagine how much these are going to cost. 4wd inherently invokes understeer compared to RWD, there is very little you can do about it, other than feed more power to the rear, but as we are not all on a racetrack, setting up for understeer is also inherently far safer and controllable for the average driver on a public road than oversteer. You can bet the 4wd BMWs coming out will also suffer from this issue, but it's a small price to pay, in my opinion, for a safer drive on a public road at normal speeds.
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