A8 D3 (4E) S8 Grill BNiB 05-07 and others

[M-A8]

Hi
Message sent, waiting for reply.

Do you have or know anyone with a VAT registered company because then you could pay him directly and have them shipped directly to you.
This is just to avoid paying VAT in Germany (19% off the asking price)

I don't mind paying for even 10 of them, but I do mind situations where someone is changing mind, or something goes wrong and they can't pay, you now, **** happens and then I will have to shift them all to get money back.

[audifin]

Sorry to be a killjoy but there is no legal way to avoid the UK VAT. Yes you might get away with it but personally I wouldn't take the risk.

[IT]

A8parts do new, and used parts.

I dont see a huge problem with this particularly niche group purchase, but as already mentioned UK VAT is due on all goods (with a few minor exceptions) sold from a VAT registered business to an individual.

So, carry on with the group grill purchase, but please no futher comments on the topic of VAT circumvention. Thanks.

[M-A8]

Originally Posted by audifin

Sorry to be a killjoy but there is no legal way to avoid the UK VAT. Yes you might get away with it but personally I wouldn't take the risk.

Guys, this is a European Law, nothing dodgy or illegal about it.
If you leave in UK, you can buy any goods from any European country and don't pay the VAT rate for that country. You don't pay the VAT in UK because you are not buying goods in UK.

All you have to do is ask the seller to not include VAT/TAX.

If you leave in France, you can buy any goods from any European country without paying their TAX, netto price.

This is real stuff, when we visited Poland last year, we went to H&M on the High Street and by the checkouts there were information boards telling you that if you are a tourist or you don't live in Poland you can buy any clothes from H&M minus Poland's VAT rate.

I'm not 100% sure if this applies to all the purchases but no one never declined my request and I've done quiet few purchases already

[M-A8]

Originally Posted by audifin

Sorry to be a killjoy but there is no legal way to avoid the UK VAT. Yes you might get away with it but personally I wouldn't take the risk.

I'm talking here about goods from Germany not UK !!!!
so not a killjoy

I bought this way Zimmerman drilled discs from Germany, tail lights, and plenty other BRAND NEW only bits for my mate and my self.

IT, I'm not that stupid or disrespectful to this community to promote illegal activities in avoiding paying TAX.

Foreign seller needs to just make the note of your VAT number for his Tax Man (you do need to be a VAT registered company to benefit from it, you can't buy it this way if you are just a guy from the street)

[Nollywood]

I'm interested in an S8 grille too. Or a W12 one if it's cheaper.

How many interested parties so far? And how much will the grilles be after discount?

Please get me a quote for 2007 S8 and W12 the same year. I'll decide which to go for, based upon final price.

[M-A8]

Hi Nolly

W12 is more expensive.
So far I'm getting one obviously , Roberto wants one and you, so 3 so far.
But roberto mentioned something about trying to get 4 for £1000, for him self all or 1 for me and 3 for him ?? Not sure.

If we all taking at least one each so 3 at the minute.

Guy is pretty hard to get hold of, but from Monday morning I will bombard him or even call him if necessary, just need someone speaking German.
I'm kind of ready to pay for it asap coz I want mine by the weekend so ideally to be dispatched on Monday.

As I said, I have no problem in paying for it BUT how much you are interested, are you 100% ???

Even if I end up with 3 grills I wont have problem in shifting them but I'd like to avoid reselling.

Cheers

[M-A8]

Also guys, there will be a cost of shipping them from my place to yours on top of it just to make it clear

[M-A8]

Guys are your cars with ACC because the grill I'm having is a standard S8 without ACC radar plate ???

[IT]

Originally Posted by M-A8

Foreign seller needs to just make the note of your VAT number for his Tax Man (you do need to be a VAT registered company to benefit from it, you can't buy it this way if you are just a guy from the street)

Here is my personal understanding, feel free to do your own research:

If a Uk VAT Registered company gives their VAT number to an EU VAT registered company, then the goods can be supplied to the UK business without VAT added. Its quite common in the rest of the EU, where in the UK we are more used to just paying the VAT and 'claiming it back' on the next VAT return. Its swings and roundabouts, but artificially inflates UK turnover I guess.

If a business sells goods without VAT to another EU VAT registered business then the selling company usually has to fill in a form to declare which goods were exported with no VAT on them, including the company details of who it was supplied to, and the value. Its called and EC Sales list here in the UK.

When you've gone to the trouble of buying the goods zero vat rated from Germany with the VAT number of a UK company, then the goods must be the property of the UK company.

At that point, when/if the goods are sold on to an individual for their use then they are subject to UK VAT at 20%.

If Germanys VAT rate is 19%, you are better off paying that, rather than the 20% you would have to pay to the UK company you buy the goods off.

If theoretically you were somehow 'just using' a UK Vat number to get the goods discounted and shipped straight to you as an individual, then that is a can of worms which doesnt sound legal from any angle. The company that is supplying the goods should verify the VAT number against the central VAT database to verify the company they are supplying to. They are only relived of their VAT responsibilities for that sale if they can prove they supplied the goods to a valid company which is exempt, i.e, another EU company or outside the EU. Tracking information for the shipment should provide this level of evidence if they were investigated.

In Poland, its quite plausible that visitors from non-eu countries could buy goods tax free. If it was administered incorrectly and they allowed EU residents to avoid tax, then thats another can of worms.

Bottom line. I believe If you are not a VAT registered business, and you are buying these type of goods from anywhere inside the EU for personal use inside the EU then VAT is applicable at the prevailing rate of the country you pay the VAT in.

I dont get the impression you are intentionally avoiding VAT, but maybe the full ins and outs of EU vat processing between member countries is more complicated than people first appreciate and dont want to leave anyone reading this thread with the impression that there is some huge loophole they're missing out on.

Trust me, the VAT man has it all stitched up.. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.....