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Old 17th September 2014, 04:57 PM
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If I were voting I'd be YES
I'm a Midlander (England) and well aware of the London focus of everything in the UK. It drives me nuts.
If I feel this way i can understand why Scots have got to where they are.

If YES wins I hopefully Scotland will start voting for a less dodgy leadership. Salmond and the SNP will be history. After all they only exist because of the current UK imbalance.

The big question is National Debt. Have a look here to see what we all owe (thank you Westminster) http://www.nationaldebtclock.co.uk/

If the Scots can duck out of their 8% of this, they'll be one of the wealthiest countries on earth. Good luck to them
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Old 17th September 2014, 05:03 PM
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The big question is National Debt. Have a look here to see what we all owe (thank you Westminster) http://www.nationaldebtclock.co.uk/
Only £40K debt per taxpayer. IMHO this is not a big debt.

I actually thought it's millions and millions per head...
Something that can't be paid forever...
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Old 17th September 2014, 05:13 PM
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This: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNAcpnrDEe8

is an interesting overseas perspective on this referendum, if from a pretty unlikely source

(Spoiler/warning - it's very pro-/yes biased)
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Old 17th September 2014, 05:48 PM
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Smart video Stephen
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Old 17th September 2014, 06:25 PM
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I always thought of him as a bit of a ****, but starting to like him some more. Video
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Old 18th September 2014, 06:35 AM
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It appears that no one likes westminster and the people in power for their disconnection from the public needs and wants?


I enjoy most of Russell Brand's videos.
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Old 18th September 2014, 09:44 AM
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All I want to know is if the vote is No, when does the referendum start for England, Wales & Northern Ireland to vote on expelling Scotland from the union?
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Old 18th September 2014, 10:02 AM
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If the vote is yes.
What will happen to our supply of Iron Bru?
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Old 18th September 2014, 10:12 AM
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If the vote is yet.
What will happen to our supply of Iron Bru?
Don't worry supply's of irn bru can be smuggled south at vastly inflated prices of course
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Old 18th September 2014, 10:13 AM
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Here's the view from an Englishman living in Scotland:

There are very few undisputed facts on the table - for example, the 'Yes' campaigners say there's loads of oil and the 'No' campaigners say it will run out soon; Yes says they'll be in the EU and use the Pound, but No says they won't....and so on.

BUT, there are 2 main reasons for wanting independence as far as I can see:
1. Scotland feels (and is IMHO) very poorly represented by a Westminster government that gets lost north of Watford.
2. They have been shafted by successive Tory governments (Poll tax, Coal mining, Steel and Bedroom tax for example) and hate them with a passion. But despite the Tories not having a single seat up here, that's who governs us.
I'm not even going to pretend i understand it. But i do know that there are a lot of anti-English Scots as I’ve worked with them. They hated me and everything i done just because I’m English, almost as if it was something i had done or was in control of, but it seemingly was because of history or just that they have been brought up to hate English I’m not 100% sure. I will say though that i didn't experience any of that when visiting a while ago at the annual meet.

1. Poor representation is country wide isn’t it? Well at least it is in Bideford anyway and I can understand that feeling. I wouldn’t trust any of them, pollititions that is.
2. We have also been shafted by the tory governments but I can add an extra category Shipbuilding, as it has all gone to Scotland all of it, even though there isn’t the capacity to build all of it and a massive injection of cash (£100,000000) is needed to bring the facility’s up to scratch. I still think it could have been shared. Won't the Scottish ship yards be flat out building their Naval ships?

Just out of interest Jim was it any better under Gordon Brown? Obviously being a scot and Labour a complete reverse of what we have now.
I not trying to push any buttons or anything and I really hope it all works out for the best whatever way it goes.

Oh yeah i've been trying to work out how it would work keeping the pound, as i'm a bit thick i just don't get it. If seperation is wanted how will it go down that the Bank of England set the interest rates and the like. Surly it would be the Euro.
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