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From A8 to S8. Opinions?
What's the general consensus around slowly but surely re badging an A8 as an S8? What's involved and will an A8 always be an A8 no matter how much extra bits and work you get done to it to try and get it close to an S8 spec?? If there's a Thread about this already please point me in the right direction. As someone offered me an S8 grill for my A8 I wondered if it's an accepted practice or frowned upon in purist circles. Cheers
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Grumble, grumble.. not OEM.. grumble..
To do it 'properly', you'd be looking at engine, diff, possibly exhaust, dash, springs, shocks, badges, brakes.. Cheaper to save up and buy an S8, and less grief when you go to buy parts.
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My advice would be if you really want an S8 save any money you'd spend on upgrades and buy one, a nice one. Alternatively, if you're happy improving and upgrading what you've already got and making a unique car then go ahead. I'd also like to add, I've got an S8 grille, aluminium mirrors and S8 instrument cluster available as a package if you choose to go down that route And if you're really pushing the boat out the FE 20's are available too for the right price p.s You can fit the S8 grille, but you CAN'T fit it with the S8 badge still attached, the purists would have your head on a block
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My first '8 was a 2.8 A8, which was badged up as an S8 when I bought it.
It was very quickly de-badged after a young German student, who was staying with us at time, took one look at the front discs and asked why it was badged as an S8 when it obviously wasn't! Not my cup of tea, but each to his own; we're all different!
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My second A8 was a 4.2 Quattro Sport, dressed up as a Ronin replica; dark green paintwork, S8 mirrors, Avus wheels, etc, etc.
Cosmetically, and to the uninformed, it was an S8. I liked the way it looked and I enjoyed driving it, but it just wasn't the real thing, and that bothered me.
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The D2 is a understated car, even the S8. I don't get the bling appeal of badging a A8 to a S8, you will always know in your heart of hearts that its an A8. As Billy Crystal once said, what's more important to look good or to feel good?
I drove my FL S8 for 5 years badged as a A8 2.8, with body-colour mirrors and eventually A8 grills. Much more fun this way |
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Probably the most uniform collective agreement amongst forum members on a post, ever lol
I concur in all respects. If you desperately want to make your A8 go quicker, handle better or look better, go fit all the S8 bits n pieces. But don't put an S8 badge on, as it just isn't one. The biggest, most misunderstood difference between the A8 and S8 are the final drive ratios. The A8 does 70 ish at around 2000 rpm, where the S8 does it at more like 3000 rpm. The S8 take off is far, far quicker and its not all down to a few extra ponies. So you can make it *look* a bit like an S8, but without some serious effort it will never go like one, so as others have said, its typically more cost effective just to buy one
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That's brilliant, and sums you up in one short sentence
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Thanks
I'm still fighting the urge to remove the aluminium mirrors off my current 8 and replace with plastic ones. I'm a bit nuts (and I still have A8 grills ready and waiting to go on potentially) |
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Up-badging is just not cool anyway you look at it - from the car purist or from the principled point of view (not a good idea to pretend to be something greater than you are). The converse is different if, like Goran, you dress down and achieve the wolf in sheep's clothing effect.
This forum is like the Gok Wan/ Fosters advert for doing the right thing. The key difference when it gets to the crunch is, as IT says, in the gear ratios as well as "a few extra ponies" .
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